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Johnny E
April 15th, 2003, 02:02 PM
Behind Our Backs
By Paul Krugman - NY Times Op/Ed

As the war began, members of the House of Representatives gave speech after speech praising our soldiers, and passed a resolution declaring their support for the troops. Then they voted to slash veterans' benefits.

Some of us have long predicted that the drive to cut taxes on corporations and the wealthy would lead to a fiscal dance of the seven veils. One at a time, the pretenses would be dropped — the pretense that big tax cuts wouldn't preclude new programs like prescription-drug insurance, the pretense that the budget would remain in surplus, the pretense that spending could be cut painlessly by eliminating waste and fraud, the pretense that spending cuts wouldn't hurt the middle class.

There are still several veils to remove before the true face of "compassionate conservatism" is revealed, but we're getting there.

I've always assumed that at some point the American people would realize what was happening and demand an end to the process. Now, though, I'm not so sure, and that wartime vote illustrates why.

A digression: we have entered a new stage in the tax-cut debate. Until now, the Bush administration and its allies haven't made any effort to explain how they plan to replace the revenues lost because of tax cuts. Now, however, party discipline is starting to crack: a few Republicans in the House and Senate, and many erstwhile supporters on Wall Street are beginning to notice how much we're looking like a banana republic.

That House budget was a halfhearted attempt to assuage those concerns; for the first time, the Republican leadership went beyond generalities about cutting spending to a list of specific cuts.

But the result wasn't very convincing: it still contained several dollars in tax cuts for every dollar of spending cuts. Furthermore, the list of cuts — in child nutrition, medical care for children, child-care assistance and support for foster care and adoption (leave no child behind!) — was clearly designed to suggest that the budget can be balanced on the backs of the poor, without any significant cuts in programs that benefit the middle class.

Aside from its mean-spiritedness, this suggestion is simply false: our deficits are too large, and our current spending on the poor too small, for even the most Scrooge-like of governments to offer additional tax cuts for the rich without raising taxes or cutting benefits for the middle class.

So it's not too surprising that the House budget failed to win over the doubters, though it's unclear what will happen next. In a bizarre piece of parliamentary maneuvering, wavering senators agreed to vote for a budget resolution that would allow $550 billion in tax cuts, in return for a gentlemen's agreement from Bill Frist and Charles Grassley that the actual sum won't exceed $350 billion.

I'm no expert on this, but given the underhanded tactics that were used to push tax cuts through in 2001 — the Senate's cap on the 10-year tax cut was evaded by making the whole thing expire after 9 years — I suspect that the spirit, if not the letter, of this agreement will somehow be violated.

But back to the amazing spectacle of the war's opening, when the House voted to cut the benefits of the men and women it praised a few minutes earlier. What that scene demonstrated was the belief of the Republican leadership that if it wraps itself in the flag, and denounces critics as unpatriotic, it can get away with just about anything. And the scary thing is that this belief may be justified.

For the overwhelming political lesson of the last year is that war works — that is, it's an excellent cover for the Republican Party's domestic political agenda. In fact, war works in two ways. The public rallies around the flag, which means the President and his party; and the public's attention is diverted from other issues.

As long as the nation is at war, then, it will be hard to get the public to notice what the flagwavers are doing behind our backs. And it just so happens that the "Bush doctrine," which calls for preventive war against countries that may someday pose a threat, offers the possibility of a series of wars against nasty regimes with weak armies.

Someday the public will figure all this out. But it may be a very long wait.

Saundra Hummer
April 26th, 2003, 07:29 PM
Originally posted by Johnny E
Behind Our Backs
By Paul Krugman - NY Times Op/Ed

As the war began, members of the House of Representatives gave speech after speech praising our soldiers, and passed a resolution declaring their support for the troops. Then they voted to slash veterans' benefits.

Some of us have long predicted that the drive to cut taxes on corporations and the wealthy would lead to a fiscal dance of the seven veils. One at a time, the pretenses would be dropped — the pretense that big tax cuts wouldn't preclude new programs like prescription-drug insurance, the pretense that the budget would remain in surplus, the pretense that spending could be cut painlessly by eliminating waste and fraud, the pretense that spending cuts wouldn't hurt the middle class.

There are still several veils to remove before the true face of "compassionate conservatism" is revealed, but we're getting there.

I've always assumed that at some point the American people would realize what was happening and demand an end to the process. Now, though, I'm not so sure, and that wartime vote illustrates why.

A digression: we have entered a new stage in the tax-cut debate. Until now, the Bush administration and its allies haven't made any effort to explain how they plan to replace the revenues lost because of tax cuts. Now, however, party discipline is starting to crack: a few Republicans in the House and Senate, and many erstwhile supporters on Wall Street are beginning to notice how much we're looking like a banana republic.

That House budget was a halfhearted attempt to assuage those concerns; for the first time, the Republican leadership went beyond generalities about cutting spending to a list of specific cuts.

But the result wasn't very convincing: it still contained several dollars in tax cuts for every dollar of spending cuts. Furthermore, the list of cuts — in child nutrition, medical care for children, child-care assistance and support for foster care and adoption (leave no child behind!) — was clearly designed to suggest that the budget can be balanced on the backs of the poor, without any significant cuts in programs that benefit the middle class.

Aside from its mean-spiritedness, this suggestion is simply false: our deficits are too large, and our current spending on the poor too small, for even the most Scrooge-like of governments to offer additional tax cuts for the rich without raising taxes or cutting benefits for the middle class.

So it's not too surprising that the House budget failed to win over the doubters, though it's unclear what will happen next. In a bizarre piece of parliamentary maneuvering, wavering senators agreed to vote for a budget resolution that would allow $550 billion in tax cuts, in return for a gentlemen's agreement from Bill Frist and Charles Grassley that the actual sum won't exceed $350 billion.

I'm no expert on this, but given the underhanded tactics that were used to push tax cuts through in 2001 — the Senate's cap on the 10-year tax cut was evaded by making the whole thing expire after 9 years — I suspect that the spirit, if not the letter, of this agreement will somehow be violated.

But back to the amazing spectacle of the war's opening, when the House voted to cut the benefits of the men and women it praised a few minutes earlier. What that scene demonstrated was the belief of the Republican leadership that if it wraps itself in the flag, and denounces critics as unpatriotic, it can get away with just about anything. And the scary thing is that this belief may be justified.

For the overwhelming political lesson of the last year is that war works — that is, it's an excellent cover for the Republican Party's domestic political agenda. In fact, war works in two ways. The public rallies around the flag, which means the President and his party; and the public's attention is diverted from other issues.

As long as the nation is at war, then, it will be hard to get the public to notice what the flagwavers are doing behind our backs. And it just so happens that the "Bush doctrine," which calls for preventive war against countries that may someday pose a threat, offers the possibility of a series of wars against nasty regimes with weak armies.

Someday the public will figure all this out. But it may be a very long wait.

Don't you know???? The American public believes what it wants to believe, no matter the consequences! Right down the garden path!

still life
May 8th, 2003, 04:04 PM
Originally posted by Saundra Hummer


Don't you know???? The American public believes what it wants to believe, no matter the consequences! Right down the garden path!

And those same people will re-elect this administration for another four years of who knows what? A climate of "Better the Devil we know, than the Devil we don't know".

Any opposition to this happening is unlikely, given the lateness of the hour. The present administration has been campaigning for re-election, since they took office and there is no-one who has come foreward to tell the public that it is possible to stop the madness and get back to the business of running America. It's possible to restore America to the one which, up until now, was the most respected and revered country in the world. In two short years, it's reputation has been transformed into one of a Global Bully, unrestrained and dangerous, bringing death and destruction at will. The weapons possessed in it's arsenal are more formidable than any in the history of mankind and other countries are nothing to them. The UN decision, brought by all the other countries in the world, was brushed aside, as one might brush aside an annoying bug. America has set itself apart from other countries, unaffected by world opinion. I think that this is a most unfortunate position to put oneself in, but we seem powerless to change this very dangerous situation.
Where is a strong opposing candidate? Does anyone have the courage to challenge this administration in any meaningful way?
In a country the size of America, you would think that there would be ONE person with the courage to challenge Mr Bush.
Is there??

Johnny E
May 8th, 2003, 04:42 PM
I will!
http://www.womensenews.org/images/ci/KucinichDennis011014.jpg

Johnny E
May 8th, 2003, 04:44 PM
I will!http://www.photo-konstantin-ny.com/sharpton.jpg

Johnny E
May 8th, 2003, 04:47 PM
I won't, but I'll raise a lot of money
http://www.insideedition.com/images/investigative_images/j-edwards.jpg

still life
May 8th, 2003, 04:48 PM
Johnny,
LOL!! I needed that. Just give me a soapbox to stand on, and I can't be stopped, can I?? :)

I can't believe that Ted Kennedy hasn't been drafted yet.;) What happened to all the gutsy prospective candidates. I don't even mean the Dems, necessarily, just ONE person, willing to stand up to the madness which has gripped the country. Isn't there anybody at all, who's electable?? Heck, even a re-roll-out of Gore would be better than the bunch there now. Holy man!!!

Johnny E
May 8th, 2003, 04:57 PM
I won't, but I have a shit load of money, served in the miltary and have great hair!
http://www.evote.com/evotepix/events/DEMConvention2000/sen_john_kerry_of_MA_disappointed_in_audience.jpg

Johnny E
May 8th, 2003, 04:59 PM
I'm gonna kick bush's ass, but no one will give me any money!
http://www.polisci.com/almanac/images/pictures/020206.jpg

Johnny E
May 8th, 2003, 05:01 PM
I will! But the Republicans are urging me to run and I don't know why.
http://www.stanford.edu/group/greenparty/nader-5UW.jpg

still life
May 8th, 2003, 05:12 PM
If Nader runs again, even though I don't live in the U.S. and can't, obviously vote, I will personally go to his house and pummel him.
Don't even suggest that he run. Look what happened in 2000.