Monk, Pepper, Evans boxes at zweitausendeins.de

[D.D.]

Insanity.

1. Pepper, Art "The complete Galaxy recordings"
16 CDs 26.99 EUR

2. Evans, Bill "The Riverside recordings"
12 CDs 19.99 EUR

3. Monk, Thelonious "The complete Riverside recordings"
15 CDs 24.99 EUR

4. Tatum, Art "The complete Pablo group masterpieces"
6 CDs 9.99 EUR

5. Tatum, Art "The complete Pablo solo masterpieces"
7 CDs 12.99 EUR

Also nice deals on Enja CDs (Abdullah Ibrahim, Shepp, Taylor, etc.) and RVGs.

Shipping worldwide.
http://www.zweitausendeins.de

[JAMF]

Wow! I hope people jump on that Pepper box. An absolute steal. Beautiful music.

[soul stirrin']

Wow, what an incredible deal.

Does anyone know how long it normally takes for an order to reach the States?

[Pete B]

add to that:

Rollins, Sonny "THE COMPLETE PRESTIGE RECORDINGS"
7 CDs 12.99 EUR. Nr. 75005

The Coltrane Prestige box is sold out :mad:

Gotta be too good to be true, but I put in an order anway

[PDEE]

Just got me to spend too good deals thanks for the info.

[Johnj]

I ordered the Monk and Evans Riverside boxes last Friday and they finally confirmed my order this morning at the prices mentioned. With shipping to Japan, the total is 67 Euros. What a bargain!

[clandy44]

Hard to believe-the Pepper and Evans boxes are on their way...I hope. Tatum Solo gone but not forgotten-just have to replay the Group cds.

[Aggie87]

I can also confirm that these prices are indeed correct. I picked up the last copy of the Trane Prestige box at my local 2001 here in Stuttgart last week, along with the Rollins Prestige. These are the ZYX boxes from the early '90s.

[weizen]

I had a friend walk around the corner and snag the last Coltrane Prestige box as well as the last Evans Fantasy box that hadn't even been listed on the website.

[GaryG]

DD,

Thanks a lot for posting that - just ordered the Evans & Monk, & a 40 CD jazz piano box!

[Pete B]

After the initial acknowledgement that comes right after you place the order, do they send a second confirmation telling you what they are going to ship?

[kazak]

Aggie, what are "ZYX boxes from the early '90s"?

[Alfred]

Are the german ZYX-digipacks compiled, distributed, AND remastered by ZYX? Any sound experience with these reissues?

Thanks!

[Claude]

I just received a confirmation of my order of the Art Pepper and Bill Evans Riverside boxes, plus many 5 Euro OJC LPs and 7 Euro RVGs.

I already have most of the Evans stuff on better remastered CDs and SACDs (no, not the ZYX remastered CDs) but I bought is as a future christmas gift for my father. He will certainly be impressed to be offered such an "expensive" box set of his favourite pianist :)

I can conform what couw writes:

The Fantasy boxes sold by Zweitausendeins are manufactured by ZYX. However they are not remastered by ZYX. They should sound exactly like the US boxes issued in the 80's and later. Not as good as K2 CDs but not as desastrous as some ZYX remasters. I have the Dolphy box and it sounds really good (I am an audiophile an care about this)

[sideshowbob]

The Monk box is one of the greatest things in the universe, and everybody should have it. Hell, at that price, buy two!

-- Ian

[D.D.]

Originally posted by Alfred
Are the german ZYX-digipacks compiled, distributed, AND remastered by ZYX? Any sound experience with these reissues?

Thanks!
Alfred, unfortunately ZYX digipacks are "remastered" with horrendous results as a rule. I suggest avoiding them and getting US (or Japanese) releases instead.
As has been mentioned above, ZYX box sets, on the other hand, are simply repackaged with the same remastering as US versions. I have Art Pepper 'Hollywood Sessions' ZYX box and it sounds excellent.

I would love to buy some of these sets as presents, but nobody of my firends or in my family cares for jazz!

[Claude]

Originally posted by Alfred
Are the german ZYX-digipacks compiled, distributed, AND remastered by ZYX? Any sound experience with these reissues?

Thanks!

The ZYX remastered CDs, which can also be identified by the OJC20-xxx number (not all are digipacks), are a very mixed bag. Some sound good, but many have horrible sonic flaws, making the remastering engineers look like absolute amateurs.

- Red Garland "Groovy" has almost no treble and lots of reverb (like an old cassette), whereas the US K2 remastered CD sounds very clear and dry.

- On Cannonball Adderley "Nippon soul", they used noise reduction software, but the result is absolutely unlistenable. The live ambience noise on the opening track comes back and forth (like someone experimenting with the position of anFM antenna :))

- Same thing on track 2 of Art Pepper "Smack up". The opening bass notes have been "denoised" and sound like a rubber band.

I also found some ZYX's which sounded very good:

- Kenny Burrell & John Coltrane
- Thelonious Monk - Misterioso
- Sonny Rollins - Saxophone Colossus
- Bill Evans - Waltz for Debbie & At the Village Vanguard

But I don't run the risk anymore, it seems to be 50/50 chance to get a good remastering. Unfortunately the US K2 discs are very hard to find in Europe. I ordered them from www.deepdiscountcd.com at $13/disc with very low shipping rates. Search for "remaster" in the title field.

[RDK]

Many thanks to D.D. for the post. I put in a big order. Both Tatums were still available when i ordered, so hopefully they'll send the solo set as well.
I ordered a huge batch of stuff from Zweitausendeins about a year ago, though they weren't nearly this cheap. I got the Coltrane box for about $60 if i remember. Can't go wrong at these prices.
Looking forward to getting these.

Ray

[JAMF]

Is there any way around the $30 or so shipping charges to the US? Another option, maybe?

[jlhoots]

On their "Orderpad" there is a drop-down menu for ship-to countries.
I can't find USA in that menu.
What's that all about?
I e-mailed them but haven't received an answer yet.

[Claude]

On the english order page, you can choose "usa". On the german order page, it's "Vereinigte Staaten"

[andyp]

aaaaarghhhh missed the Monk and Pepper

[vajerzy]

Looks like they're all gone.......

Be curious to know whether people received what they ordered.

[J.A.W.]

Originally posted by vajerzy
Looks like they're all gone.......

Be curious to know whether people received what they ordered.

Ordered the Evans / Riverside for a friend and it'll ship tomorrow (4/25).

[edvsys]

Got these confirmed, shipping at 4/25

75002 TATUM PABLO 6CD 1 9,99 9,99
75005 ROLLINS PRESTIGE 7CD 1 12,99 12,99
75008 MONK RIVERSIDE 15CD 1 24,99 24,99
75009 EVANS RIVERSIDE 12CD 1 19,99 19,99


the other tatum/pablo was already gone...

shipping is 29.00 Euro and they usually need about three weeks...

I bought the prestige coltrane and prestige davis set before and both sound fine and were a steal.

dubidubidubiduh

:D

PEACE IS A STATE OF MIND
NO WAR!

[Adam]

I tried teh Pepper and Monk Riverside, and got an email today saying that both were Sold out. But I had also added in one single Mal Waldron disk, whcih they were still going to ship me for 22 Euro shipping, to make a total of 33 Euro for one CD. So I wrote them to cancel the whole thing. Hoep they get it in time.

Ah, c'est la vie.

[kh1958]

Thanks to the person who posted about this box set fire sale. I ordered Tatum Group Masterpieces, Rollins' Prestige and Evans' Riverside, for a veritable pittance. They just sent me an email; unfortunately it's in German and I have no clue if they are confirming the order or not.

[vajerzy]

Will anyone be getting an extra Art Pepper Galaxy set and want to sell it? I *really* wanted this set!

I received an email stating that the Pepper Galaxy and the Monk Riverside are out of stock.....but I am getting the Tatum Pablo Group and the Evans Riverside sets.

BTW- I used an German to English translation search engine to read my email.

Mike

[kh1958]

Thanks. That's too bad. The Pepper and Monk sets are both great. I paid full price for them years ago.

[vajerzy]

kh1958:

I used this:

http://dictionaries.travlang.com/GermanEnglish/

I did "cut and paste" with individual words from the email and it worked well!

Mike

[kazak]

I received confirmation for all the sets except for the Tatum solo. Thanks for the heads up D.D. and all.

For language translations try this site:

http://babelfish.altavista.com/

You can copy and paste the entire message in (not just word by word) and there are no pop-up ads. It also translates websites.

Guten Tag!

[sidewinder]

Ordered the two Tatums, Coltrane Prestige, Pepper Complete Galaxy, Evans Riverside and Monk Riverside sets. All seem to be on their way, with the exception of the Coltrane set, which was sold out.

Not too bad ! :D

[peter rh]

quick delivery :) :) :)

[David]

For those board members in the US who took advantage of this sale, what were your final postage/tax/customs costs? I was hesitant to order because the website was quite vague about these.

[kh1958]

22 euros for the Tatum Group, Rollins Prestige and Evans Riverside sets. I haven't received them yet however.

[Claude]

Originally posted by David
For those board members in the US who took advantage of this sale, what were your final postage/tax/customs costs? I was hesitant to order because the website was quite vague about these.

Shipping: Just fill your order, you will then see what the shipping cost is when you choose the destination country, before you confirm the order.

Tax: In principle, you should be allowed to pay the price without VAT (16%), as the tax is only due for orders from a EU country. If it is not deducted automatically from your order you should contact them.

[David]

Originally posted by Claude


Shipping: Just fill your order, you will then see what the shipping cost is when you choose the destination country, before you confirm the order.

Tax: In principle, you should be allowed to pay the price without VAT (16%), as the tax is only due for orders from a EU country. If it is not deducted automatically from your order you should contact them.

Thanks for the info guys. According to the site, the given shipping is only an estimate, and for packages it is some fee + 29 euros. I was worried about the 'fee.' Perhaps next time I should just take the plunge. :)

[Johnj]

As they mention somewhere on their site, the do not deduct VAT for shipments outside the EU (unlike, for instance, Amazon). At the prices they were selling the box sets for however, who cares.

As for shipping, it is either 22 Euros or 29 Euros outside the EU, as they clearly state. I ordered the Monk and Evans Riversides and the total was 22 Euros, not too bad for 27 Cd's. David, there is no fee in addition to the shipping cost.

[clandy44]

I placed my order by email on 4/23 and have heard nothing. Good or bad? Do they send confirmations of orders?

[Pete B]

I received a confirmation (in German) about 3 days after placing ther order.

I was charged 29 Euros for 6 boxes - really a very reasonable price for transatlantic shipping.

[GaryG]

I received the 40cd jazz piano masters cd today , but there was a note in the box saying the Evans had sold out (they had previously confirmed it).
I notice there all back on the site again - saying back in stock in 4 weeks - I've given it another go for the Trane, Monk & 2 Evans sets but I'm not holding out much hope !

[David]

Yeah, it sounds like I missed out on this one :( I'll hold out hope for them to restock. I wonder if they make any profit at those prices? Because if they can, I don't want to think how much I am being gouged when I buy at normal prices.

[Claude]

They probably want to get rid of this 10 year old stock.

[sidewinder]

The whole of my order arrived here in the UK today and intact. Delivery was registered, by Securicor. Not bad at all for 8.5 euorozlottys ! :)

[clandy44]

Contacted them by email and they emailed that they had shipped my order on 4/28-apologized for the confirm not getting to me. So there's hope for those who may not have heard back.

[Claude]

I received a huge box from Zweitausendeins today, carrying 52 CDs and 17 LPs, for a total of 216 Euro including shipping. That's 3,13 Euro/disc.

No sleep this weekend ;)

[RDK]

Originally posted by clandy44
Contacted them by email and they emailed that they had shipped my order on 4/28-apologized for the confirm not getting to me. So there's hope for those who may not have heard back.

I had the exact same problem - no confirmation - but they responded to my e-mail that everything had shipped. Plus, it looks like me credit card was charged for at least most of my order.

[kh1958]

My copies of Tatum Group Masterpieces, Evans Riverside and Rollins Prestige arrived today. It's something of a miracle they made it from Germany to Texas as they came in about the flimsiest box I've ever gotten in the mail. Aside from that, my only complaint to an otherwise quite happy situation is that there is no discographical information at alll in the Evans set. The Tatum set does have that information, though in a near microscopic format. Anyone know how to get a copy of the readable and complete booklets for these two sets?

[Michel_M]

I am in the same situation as kh.

I ordered the Evans and Pepper box set ; they arrived safely in Canada at a great price but with a minimalist booklet for each.

I would greatly appreciated if someone can tell where I can find a copy of the complete booklets.

Thanks for any help.

[J.A.W.]

Why don't you purchase the booklets from Fantasy? They sold me the "CD copy" of their LP-sized Monk / Riverside booklet a while ago.

Their e-mail address: info@fantasyjazz.com (Fantasy)

[Michel_M]

Thanks Hans, I will try


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Michel

[king ubu]

just got an email from zweitausendeins, which says they sent the two Evans, the Tatum Solo, the Pepper and the Monk (the Coltrane - which is listed as available - will be sent later).
So no reason to doubt what they say on their site!

Will take a leave from the board this summer to digest all that music :cool:

ubu

[jlhoots]

I have a PROBLEM with Zweitausendeins.
When they announced "restock" of items, I ordered the 16CD Art Pepper Galaxy set.
I received an e-mail today (in German) saying they were shipping the Art TATUM 6CD group set on May 16.
I immediately sent a reply with my order# indicating the error. I asked for a reply in English.
I haven't heard back yet.
Anyone have a similar experience?
I hope they can (will) correct this.
Otherwise I obviously will never order from them again.

[kh1958]

Do you already have the Tatum group masterpieces box set? If not, you should be thanking them for the error!

[Claude]

They forgot one CD in my order, it was listed on the receipt but not in the box.

I mailed them on one morning and got a reply in the afternoon, saying they would send the CD immediately. They also proposed to send me two CDs I had ordered that were not available at the time. As I had picked up those CDs in their local store in Munich since then I replied that I did not need them. They replied that they would only ship the CD that ws missing from my order.

This correspondence took place within a few hours. I got the CD four days later (in an enormously oversized box stuffed with paper :)). So I cannot complain at all about the speed of their customer service. The person I was in contact with was Stephan Luening <sluening@zweitausendeins.de>

[king ubu]

I also am/was in conctact with Mr. Luening and he seems to care quite a lot to provide good service to customers.
When I received my first order which was confirmed to contain the Tatum Group & Evans Riverside, the last one was not included, but instead, there was a note saying they regret that that item had been out of stock.
But I had ordered again already (the delivery in 4 weeks was up before I received my package #1) and not included the Evans. I then wrote Mr. Luening and he said no problem, they will include that one, too, as it was their mistake. So I hope now package #2 arrives safe & soon, and will contain everything I ordered this time. And if so, I consider them doing a great service (and considering their prices, they might be as friendly as the cashier in a McDonald's or someplace like that...)

ubu

[jlhoots]

I have no problem with the music on the Tatum Group set - esp. the Webster, Carter & Eldridge.
But - that's NOT what I ordered.
So far have not heard back - 24 hours.
I'll "report" when I do.

[GaryG]

definately try & contact Stephan with your order numbers . This is what i did about half an hour ago with an enquiry , he has already replied with a most satisfactory answer .

[jlhoots]

I sent an e-mail in English with all of that information well over 24 hours ago.
No reply so far.

[EKE BBB]

No problem at all with zweitausendeins.de

Quick delivery, incredible prices, reasonable shipping

In my last order I included Tatum group masterpieces and it wasn´t in stock. In the box comes a note saying something about it...but in German.

So you say they send restocked and previously ordered items later???

[GaryG]

Originally posted by jlhoots
I sent an e-mail in English with all of that information well over 24 hours ago.
No reply so far.

it may not be the answer your looking for but the only difference was i mailed him in German (i used a free translation site ) , but the reply did come back in English .
(I'm just trying to help )

[Claude]

I would recommend writing in English if you don't know German.

Online translation is not accurate and Germans generally understand English very well.


@EKE BB: In my case they only proposed to send restocked items because they had to send me a missing item. I guess they don't do it automatically.

In the order confirmation they state the items that are out of stock and they don't bill them, so that means that the order of these items is canceled.

[GaryG]

???
one of us writes in English & doesnt get a reply .

one of us attempts to write in German & gets a reply .

I know what I'll be doing in future .

[clandy44]

I feel like I'm moving in slow motion with these guys. Placed my order 4/23 and they confirmed shipment on 4/28-still no delivery. What's reasonable shipment time to Washington from Germany?

[Claude]

I usually get items from the US within 3 weeks

[clandy44]

Thanks for the shipment time info. I have my trusty watchdog at the gates awaiting delivery.

[Claude]

If you find the booklet print too small, or some information is missing in the booklet, session information is also available on this site:

http://www.kind-of-blue.de/box_index.htm

Unfortunately no indication of the original albums.

[jlhoots]

I heard back (in English) this morning.
They confirmed their error & resolved the problem in a more than generous way.
I withdraw any previous negative thoughts.
Can anyone indicate who they use for delivery in the USA?

[RDK]

Clandy, I just received my order here in California the other day. It does take about three weeks. I've never had a problem with their shipping, though i always laugh at the relatively flimsy boxes that they use - yet they always seem to arrive safely.

[Clunky]

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[Klact-oveeseds-tene]

Did anyone have any luck contacting Fantasy and getting a hold of the booklets for these sets?

I ordered the Monk, Evans, Rollins, and Pepper sets. I was able to photocopy the booklets at the public library but would rather have the originals.

By the way, the Pepper set totally floored me! I debated about not ordering it but I'm am so glad I didn't. It has re-affirmed for me my love of this music! WOW!

[jlhoots]

Fantasy never answered me.
They also never sent a new catalogue when I requested one.

[clintsta]

Has anyone had any luck with getiing anymore of these boxsets as of late? Thanks!

[Claude]

I think they are all sold out now. I browsed through the latest Merkheft (http://www.zweitausendeins.de/bestell/merkheft.cfm?language=1) from December and did not encounter them.

Zweitausendeins recently stopped offering some box sets (from various labels) which have been in their catalogue for years. Maybe this explains the bargain price.

The box sets regularly show up on Ebay Germany, at a slightly higher price.

[RDK]

One set that I really wanted from Zweitausendeins was called "RHYTHM & BLUES GOES ROCK'N'ROLL." It was a 15 CD set for something like $10. (!) There were actually two volumes I believe, for a total of 30 discs.

These no longer show up on the website, but I was wondering if any board members over in Germany know if these are available in any other store (or on-line) at that price. I could use two sets of each. Please drop me a PM if you can help me locate these.

thanks!

[Claude]

The german online store with the biggest choice is JPC (http://www.jpc.de). You may search there.

Zweitausendeins is offering bargains, many titles are available only temporarily.