On the up?

[Amanda]

In your opinion, do you think Jazz is getting more popular?

In my experience, I would definitely say that Jazz is slowly getting more popular especially with younger people (I include myself in this, lol) - although they may not always be brave enough to share this fact with their friends! :cool:

[Coypu]

Well here in sweden jazz is pretty much dead if you look at people in my age (21) and what they listen to. The older generation like the mainstream jazz but hardly anything outside that. Viking Rock is the genre that goes up here in sweden.

[Jazz]

Hey Amanda, I like your attitude!! :D

Welcome to AAJ

[jazzypaul]

Originally posted by Coypu
Well here in sweden jazz is pretty much dead if you look at people in my age (21) and what they listen to. The older generation like the mainstream jazz but hardly anything outside that. Viking Rock is the genre that goes up here in sweden.

Then the people in Sweden are ignorant of all of the great music being made, and it's their fault for not digging beneath the surface. This is what I'm talking about. It's a jazz thread. Nobody cared about the state of Viking Rock in Sweden. It's a jazz forum.

I think a few things are genuinely helping along the popularity of jazz...

1) The Diva complex: Women who want to be divas check out other divas. They listen to divas, and they check out what those divas checked out. They eventually find out that the divas of the last few years all dug on Aretha, Aretha dug on Dinah Washington, Sarah, Ella and Billie, and bam! CD's are sold. When they find out that they're listening to jazz, they might be willing to check out more jazz. So they do. I've seen it happen, and I'm always happy when it does.

2) Th Jam Band Phenomenon: Deadheads, especially, are notorious for this: If they played with the Dead, I wanna check them out. So, they go listen to Branford, for all of his appearances with the Dead, or they go out and the buy Virgin Beauty (Ornette's album that featured Jerry on about 1/2 the album). MMW got famous for their opening slots and on-stage jams with Phish, and others, like Charlie Hunter and the Greyboy Allstars, have just had word of mouth amongst that group of people on their side. Now some of those jazz-funk bands are making their way onto stages at Bonnaroo and other jam band oriented festivals, and they're all taking off. I don't think they'll go platinum or anything, but they're playing rock sized halls because the jazz clubs can't hold them.

3) The Martini culture: We've always had this on our side. Jazz is, was and always will be used as a marketing tool for hipness, romance and affluence. People want to buy into this, and a few actually become jazz fans in the process. It does happen.

I am glad that other people are picking up on it, because it IS happening. It will take time, and it will take us getting away from the gershwins and porters for it to truly happen, because people genuinely want music that they can relate to. So instead of slipping in a Matt Dennis tune into a set at a club, slip in a Pink Floyd tune (this is what my group does, and we do alright for ourselves, and we have an AMAZINGLY young fan base for a free-bop group.) We will never be playing the most popular music on the planet. This is just a part of what goes along with being a jazz musician. But we can do our part to get the message out there. And as the message spreads, so does the popularity.

[Coypu]

Jazzypaul, I know that you want a "pure" forum but if that is so then why didn't you complain on this thread :

http://forums.allaboutjazz.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=111

Far more offtopic that I have ever been.

[jazzypaul]

Because that's an innocuous thread where a bunch of jazz fans could talk about football. You said that people in your age group don't even listen to the stuff. The difference is that your posts take the wind out of our sails when we're trying to have a discussion about jazz. And especially that one, what a great idea for a thread, how jazz is becoming more popular. That's the kind of thread that should bring smiles to people's faces around here. Instead, you throw that in there and force us to roll our eyes. Be positive or be elsewhere, please!

[Coypu]

I beleive in the truth. If someone ask me if jazz is going up then I can mostly speak for my own country and this time the answer was no. But I didn't mean to discourage Amanda so keep it up amanda and if you ever want to know about the more extreme sides of fusion then I will gladly help you out.

Cheer up Paul, it could be worse.

[BariMusix]

Ok,
First of I wpuld like to say I don't want to start Jazz Metal War #2.
I would like to know why you said this:
Jazzypaul, I know that you want a "pure" forum but if that is so then why didn't you complain on this thread
in response to what Jazzypaul said.

JazzyPaul was responding to what the creator of this thread said:In your opinion, do you think Jazz is getting more popular?

JazzyPaul said:
I think a few things are genuinely helping along the popularity of jazz...

And then explained what jazz had going for it to become more popular.

Coypu mind you, I'm asking you this out of curiosity, not hostility.
Just curious.

[Coypu]

I was refering to the sport thread a while ago that I also linked to. HIGHLY off topic in this forum and the fact that everytime I even name Fusion I get attacked by him eventhough he himself stated in the Jazz or Fusion thread that he didn't want the genres to be separated and that he likes both. I was pointing out that he actions where illogical and highly bias.

[jazzypaul]

The thread where I said Jazz and Fusion should be combined is the thread that I would like to see...

This is a great topic! Let's get back on it!

[Coypu]

The thread have been revived, read and weep.:)

[jazzypaul]

fair enough. let's get back on track now, shall we?

[Coypu]

Originally posted by jazzypaul
fair enough. let's get back on track now, shall we?

Sure, let me start by reporting of a trend that I have been noticing lately. In extreme fusion alot of new bands have been emerging that hold a skill level that is of far higher avarage than 10 years ago. This is very promising and with the sucess of Gordian Knot things are looking good.

[Jazz]

Man, I really wish I could have a positive outlook but...

I think my whole thing about semiotics kind of shows how I feel. I don't feel that the modern listener's ear can really get that much out of jazz. Its easier for them to relate to simpler aspects of music, then to have to sit down and actually concentrate on what is happening in the music.

I think that what that does is relegates jazz music to a novelty, but that's okay because it still means work....

[jazzypaul]

Its easier for them to relate to simpler aspects of music, then to have to sit down and actually concentrate on what is happening in the music.

Yeah, but when you see a bunch of unshowered hippies at a Charlie Hunter show, a few wearing Rahsaan shirts, makes the heart skip a beat. I don't even mind that they don't know what they're listening to. That comes with time. They're not all musicians. But if they like the stuff, then cool. You have no idea how many mullets I saw at one place that my group used to play when word got out that we play jazz versions of Slayer and Metallica tunes. And in the case of "For Whom The Bell Tolls" we play it as a ballad, so the people are out there, and its not always semiotics. They just have to be guided. Like horses to water.

[Coypu]

One thing about the more advanced jazz is that it will never get enough exposure in media since the music is to advanced. This does not mean that many people aren't able to appreciate it, they just never get exposed to it and this is where we all come in. As with every extreme form of music it is important that we the fans expose all our friends and family to the music and especially use internet to spread the music. If you can save 3 persons they might save 3 themselves and all of a sudden things start to happen. So I think that a little bit of forward thinking can do more than most think. If we dwell on the treasures and never actively try to make people here it then we will haveto accept that the genre might die out or atleast shrink. Or we do our best to promote it, the choice is ours.

[Giant Steps]

Originally posted by Amanda
In your opinion, do you think Jazz is getting more popular?

In my experience, I would definitely say that Jazz is slowly getting more popular especially with younger people (I include myself in this, lol) - although they may not always be brave enough to share this fact with their friends! :cool:

I don't know if younger people are digging jazz more, maybe younger musicians. I'm 17 and I'm (openly) a huge jazz fan but most of my friends listen to rock and nu-metal. In fact, I think I'm the only one in my school who really digs jazz other than a couple of band freaks.... errr... band members who like really bad jazz like Kenny G..

I play violin in Orchestra as well guitar, so I naturally have an adversity to people in band even though I'm in Jazz Band. Stinky band freaks with their spit valves... yekch! String players forever!!!

(edit- changed my age. Forgot I turned 17 a few days ago! :))

Good Cheese,
-GS-

[Giant Steps]

Originally posted by Coypu
One thing about the more advanced jazz is that it will never get enough exposure in media since the music is to advanced. This does not mean that many people aren't able to appreciate it, they just never get exposed to it and this is where we all come in. As with every extreme form of music it is important that we the fans expose all our friends and family to the music and especially use internet to spread the music. If you can save 3 persons they might save 3 themselves and all of a sudden things start to happen. So I think that a little bit of forward thinking can do more than most think. If we dwell on the treasures and never actively try to make people here it then we will haveto accept that the genre might die out or atleast shrink. Or we do our best to promote it, the choice is ours.

I have to agree with Coypu here. The internet is an amazing way to expose people to jazz. I doubt if I'd be nearly as huge of jazz fan as I am now without Kazaa. I still buy lots of CDs, I just use Kazaa to expose me to new artist that I hear about.

Good Cheese,
-GS-

[Jazz]

edited because I felt it was appropriate to do so.

[jazzypaul]

I gotta say, those were the first truly intelligent words to come out of Coypu yet, and they are doozies. Good job Coypu. Now to just get you listening to some Mingus...

[Jazz]

ditto Jazzypaul! Thanks Coypu, seriously.

[John]

I am a high school student, and I must unfortunatley say that jazz in not becoming more widespread where I live. The only people that like jazz at all are in the rhythm section of my high school's jazz band, which I play the piano for. That's four people including me. (Piano, Guitar, Bass, Drums) Anyway, the band doesn't even really play jazz. We play things like Theme from Shaft and arrangements of popular tunes which have just a little bit of a jazzy flavor to them. The only reason I'm in the band is to jam with the rhythm section and to get my music credits.
The school actually had a jazz unit in the music program in middle school. However, there is a good chance that it turned people away from jazz because of the idea that anything learnt in school must be boring and uninteresting...

[bombastic]

Playing Jazz versions of mettalica songs? somehow to me it sounds like sacrilige! that music is bad enough on it's own, why give it another life.....part of the mystical tradition of jazz is playing the standards. look at the greats in the history in jazz. they all covered the standards, including mingus. in my humble opinion, this is a big part of keeping the jazz tradition alive....playing these wonderful standard tunes. leave the pink floyd to the kids in the basement back in 1973, jeez, i was one of those teenagers who had to smoke a joint to become interested by "dark side of the moon"! wow, man that's a great album,man,huh-huh-huh-huh-huh-huh-huh-huh. i am so high man!:rolleyes: hey, the marijuana wore off, how come it's not interesting anymore? watching ice melt is interesting when you are high on pot! watching flies fuck is interesting when you are high on pot! the grateful dead are interesting when you are high on pot!:cool: there was never such a thing as a hippie, they were rich kids with long hair who used daddies cash to buy drugs.;) :rolleyes: i grew up in one of those affluent towns in the late 60s, early 70s. for some reason, i could never quite figure out why, it was cool to numb your brain and act like a total moron! i guess it still goes on today among teenagers? maybe us older folks can give them some wisdom regarding how stupid continuing with this behavior is, and that it leads only to greater stupidity!:o any comments?

[jazzypaul]

Bombastic, you have to remember one key thing: jazz versions of pop tunes have always made an impact. Whether it was Pops singing Broadway hits, Miles playing them, Hank Mobley doing motown hits, Woody Herman doing Steely Dan songs or George Benson doing On Broadway, audiences have always responded to jazz versions of pop songs. And all of those standards that you talk about are all old pop songs. Now, I don't know about you, but I have grown up in a far too cynical world to enjoy There is No Greater Love. And when people my age (I'm 27) hear old Gershwin tunes, it is hammered in their head again, "jazz is old people's music." Sorry, man, but jazz is NOT old people's music. This is MY music. This music has been my soundtrack, and I hope it stays that way. But just as Pops made jazz popular with popular music, and just like Miles made jazz (well, kinda) popular with popular music and just like Wes and Benson made jazz popular with pop music, I have no problem doing it either. As long as the music has potential, and as long as it can withstand reharmonization (which, amazingly enough, Pink Floyd can -- know what you dis before you dis it) and still sound familiar, I'm totally cool with it. And it blows my mind when these narrow-minded people come in and talk about jazz, and the standards and then wonder why no one is getting into the music. I mean, really! Paul Bollenback has been doing it for a while, and to hear what he pulls out of a Red Hot Chili Peppers tune is fantastic! Alex Skolnick recently put out a record with jazz renditions of Detroit Rock City, Pinball Wizard and (no, really) No one like you, by the Scorpions. The music is out there, and the audience is out there. So where are you?

[Jazz]

I don't know, I really love the standards. Really really love them, and I think its BECAUSE of my cynicism that I love songs like There Is No Greater Love, or even better in my opinion, All The Things You Are. I'm tired of going to movies and seeing people die. I'm tired of watching television and seeing people die. I'm tired of looking at our pop culture glorify dysfunction and anger like they are powerful or good. I mean, things are bad enough in the world without having to dwell on them in music too. I'll deal with life on its own terms, with whatever it deals me, but the music is MINE, and life can't make that sour on me too. As far as standards being pop songs, I totally agree, but the main thing is the melody. I think that the melody of a pop song either qualifies or disqualifies it as being compatible with a jazz format. It has to be rhythmically interesting, and it has to be able to support more complex changes than are probably written for it. Anyways, that's my 0.02

[BariMusix]

Jazz says:
As far as standards being pop songs, I totally agree, but the main thing is the melody. I think that the melody of a pop song either qualifies or disqualifies it as being compatible with a jazz format. It has to be rhythmically interesting, and it has to be able to support more complex changes than are probably written for it.
JazzyPaul says:
As long as the music has potential, and as long as it can withstand reharmonization (which, amazingly enough, Pink Floyd can -- know what you dis before you dis it) and still sound familiar, I'm totally cool with it.

I agree with you both. I guess what can't be converted over could still end up as smooth jazz (not that I'm a fan of smooth jazz) or fusion. I still love the American Song Book standards. You have to give it up for Porter and Gershwin, their melodies are absoultely beautiful, at least in my ear.
The problem I see in our time is that melody is becoming less and less important in pop music, generally speaking. Sounds, are taking place of melody, be it in riff form or an instrumental effect (produced electronically or otherwise.) That doesn't mean there isn't any music out there worth standardizing, it just seems there is less of it. Well that is my 0.002.

[jazzypaul]

That doesn't mean there isn't any music out there worth standardizing, it just seems there is less of it. Well that is my 0.002.

This is entirely true. The worst part about it is that some of the best changes I have seen in a while have come from whoever is writing songs for Ricky Martin, of all people. But I can't bring myself to play that stuff. But, have no fear, there are still great pop bands out there with stuff to mine. Radiohead has to be at the very top of that list. I've seen more guys make more interesting music out of Radiohead tunes than I've seen in quite some time. And for some reason, piano players in the know really like Bjork.

I also agree that props do need to be given to the guys who made up the Great American Songbook. They all wrote great songs that do deserve to live on, and I do like quite a few of those tunes. I want to make that perfectly clear. I just don't think it's the path that I want to follow on the same level that Benny Green has followed it. Jazz IS a tradition. A tradition of swing, a tradition of elegance in the face of disparity and aggression, a tradition of putting yourself above all of the shit that's on the ground and making the place stink. But it's also a tradition of taking pop elements, regardless of era, and infusing them with the blues and with the swing. And to say that we should hang onto that tradition is nothing short of stone cold fact. But to say that we should bind ourselves to a certain element of that tradition? We may as well just hang ourselves by that timeline instead of enlongating it, because that's exactly what will happen.

[Jazz]

I think each musician has, more or less, his own path to follow. What I really want to do is develop straight ahead as its own style, without "fusing" it to another genre.

[jazzypaul]

I think each musician has, more or less, his own path to follow. What I really want to do is develop straight ahead as its own style, without "fusing" it to another genre.

Which is a very noble cause, to be sure. The question is, how?

[Jazz]

well, suffice to say I'll be working on it! ;)

[bombastic]

i certainly was not condemning any individuals choice of what song they wanted to play, who am i to tell you you can't play "for whom the bell tolls", and even if you did, having never heard it, i wouldn't know what it was anyway! Personally, though, to glorify some goofy rock group like kiss,(yuck), would not fit in with my own individual sense of aesthetics. There are other popular songs that i would have no problem playing, and of course many of these older standards are pop songs.(i just picked up a disc today of paul desmond playing some beautiful old standards). many of them are jazz standards, an important part of the musics repetoire. in my humble opinion, jazz isn't old peoples music or young peoples music or black peoples music or white peoples music or mans music or womans music.......it's lifes music, by life for life! like ellington or miles said" we don't even have to refer to it as "Jazz", although i have nothing against the word. I just can't see myself playing super goofy "livin la vida jerky" jazz style on my tenor sax, when there are so many beautiful songs to play, like Invitation, for example, or Naima. Keep playing Jazz Guys.....:cool:

[BariMusix]

I think each musician has, more or less, his own path to follow. What I really want to do is develop straight ahead as its own style, without "fusing" it to another genre.
I agree that is the way to go. I hope my post didn't come across as me saying that straight ahead needs to fuse with other genres. What I was implying is that like Bichet and Ellington to Mulligan and Miles and beyond we can take worthy melodies and use them for tunes. I also hope that you don't get the impression that I only want to play or listen to the 'old' standards, i.e. Rogers and Hart, Gershwin, Poter, ect. I love these tunes and they are what I used to learn how to play over changes. Now that I have a good grasp on the fundamentals and a little more I can take melodies I think are worth while and play them in a straight ahead setting. I think you guys have some good ideas and I'm glad we can communicate and express our love for jazz in such a community.

[jazzypaul]

Well, the funny thing about "straight ahead" at this point is, what is straight ahead and what isn't? I'm sure we all agree that it's primarily acoustic. But is Dave Holland straight ahead? Dave Douglas? Matthais Lupri? Eldad Tarmu? Because they're all playing acoustic jazz, and they're certainly not playing free jazz, but it most certainly ain't Houston Person by a long shot. So, then, what exactly is it that we're calling straight ahead? This might be in need of a definition right about now...

[Jazz]

Well I sat here and tried to define straight ahead, but I'm sorry Jazzypaul I just don't know enough to put it in words. My ears know it, but I don't understand it enough to define it.

I would come up with some idea or criteria, and then think of a ton of examples that defied what I was saying. In fact I'm really glad you asked that question because I think it shows me why Duke Ellington said he didn't like the term "jazz". I think that it's a testament to the sophistication of straight ahead that it is so difficult to define simply. Anyways, maybe in another couple of years I'll understand better.

Another thing I should make clear is that when "fusion" has enough of a jazz element in it I still think of it as straight ahead. A good example would be anything off of Miles Smiles. I consider all that to be connected enough to jazz to be straight ahead, but no one can accuse it of being the same stuff that had been done for years.

[jazzypaul]

That's interesting, I would have never thought of Miles Smiles as fusion of any sort. That's what I'm saying: we all want to play straight ahead, and straight ahead itself is even such a massive term that we could never truly all cover even one SEGMENT of jazz. How cool is that?

[Jazz]

Its pretty freakin cool, that's for sure!!!

Man I think this discussion has reached the limit of my understanding of jazz. That's a really cool thing though!

Tell me what you thought of Miles Smiles. I guess I considered it fusion-ey sounding because it sounded like they were concentrating on straighter subdivisions instead of the 3 against 2 feel. The 5th song on there (freedom jazz suite isn't it?) sounds like it has a real fusion feel to it.

[Jazz]

Yeah, I'm listening to Freedom Jazz DANCE (hehe, I suck at names, seriously) and it sounds like a fusion between jazz and funk. I can count half time using 16th notes and it works. The reason I can't really analyze it is my lack of rhythmic sense. I'm still a moron when it comes to polyrhythms, which is a real weakness, so I'm still not sure exactly what I'm listening to when I listen to Smiles. Anyways...

[BariMusix]

Well, the funny thing about "straight ahead" at this point is, what is straight ahead and what isn't? I'm sure we all agree that it's primarily acoustic. But is Dave Holland straight ahead? Dave Douglas? Matthais Lupri? Eldad Tarmu? Because they're all playing acoustic jazz, and they're certainly not playing free jazz, but it most certainly ain't Houston Person by a long shot. So, then, what exactly is it that we're calling straight ahead? This might be in need of a definition right about now...

I would have to say this about straight ahead, and I'm still learning so if you think differently, let me know. I think it's safe to say straight ahead came out of bop which came out of 'hot' jazz.
Saying that, the first straight ahead album in my eyes is "Birth of the Cool." Let me explain that I think that straight ahead has alot to do with the way the band or drummer swings. In hot jazz (I'm thinking of the best example for me would be west end blues) the guitarist i.e. Freddy Green plays on every quarter note. The drummer kept a pattern that didn't change but from phrase to phrase (Let me know if I'm right on that one) and the bassist (if there was one) played primarily on one and three. It seems the group sole purpose was to keep time so the horns or soloist could really shine. Then Swing groups came and gave us the Benny Goodman quartet, Coleman Hawkin ect. More interplay was introduced between the soloist or lead players and the rhythm section. Then came Diz and Bird. The Freddy Green style went out of the window at this point. More interplay yet. The drummer by this time was using polyrhythms galore. The piano probably had it the hardest, trying to comp along with the complex melodies Bird and Diz would play. Then came Miles, Mulligan, Clifford Brown, MJQ, ect. By this time evryone in the group were contributing with interplay. The harmonic progressions had developed from a Jazz blues or blues to modulating ii V I's to complex harmoic sequences. The swing style people settled on at this time was very different than bop or hot jazz as it revolved around everyone. The soloist would play something ( a melodic figure, a rhythmic sequence) and the drummer would catch on and echo or not. And Vice Versa. This time up to fusion is what I think (My opinion) to be straight ahead. I think what Miles did right before fusion was expanding on straight ahead. It was more about interplay, but on a higher level. So to play pop melodies from our day in the style I described would be something worth my time.

[jazzypaul]

Originally posted by Jazz...
Yeah, I'm listening to Freedom Jazz DANCE (hehe, I suck at names, seriously) and it sounds like a fusion between jazz and funk. I can count half time using 16th notes and it works. The reason I can't really analyze it is my lack of rhythmic sense. I'm still a moron when it comes to polyrhythms, which is a real weakness, so I'm still not sure exactly what I'm listening to when I listen to Smiles. Anyways...

Okay, for Freedom Jazz Dance...Tony's main pattern is 16th note triplets broken up between the ride and the snare. This may not be your average ride pattern, but it's not really funk either, because it really doesn't support a backbeat, at all. Instead, what it does is give Miles and Wayne a bed to float over, as Herbie is largely absent, and Ron is playing some cool shit that also, while not walking, is still swinging. I dunno. Yeah, it's not a traditional jazz groove, and while it hints at the funk, I don't think it really is either. It's rhythmic ambiguity's finest hour, to be sure.

[Jazz]

It's rhythmic ambiguity's finest hour

That would be my problem then! I guess I still need everything pretty clear rhythmically to deal with it on an analytical basis. Thanks that description really helped me!

When you say 16th note triplets, do you mean 16th notes grouped into triplets? This is the only thing I could think that you meant, but I wasn't sure.

[Pharaohrock]

what's sad to me is how jazz is reaching everybody today but the people who created it- Americans, and more specifically, African Americans. I can count on one hand the number of young black musicians from this town. Back in 1960, i'm told it would have been around 20-30.

[jazzypaul]

Originally posted by Jazz

When you say 16th note triplets, do you mean 16th notes grouped into triplets? This is the only thing I could think that you meant, but I wasn't sure.

yep.

[Jazz]

Okay, I thought you might have meant two triplets a beat, which is what I thought 16th note triplets are. But what I think you are saying is an implied hemiola by grouping 16th notes into 3's, which, unless I am mistaken, would imply a sort of double time latin feel.

[Jazz]

Oh and feel free to correct me, I don't deny I'm rhythmically stupid!! :D

[jazzypaul]

Nope, my bad. It's two triplets to the beat, as in true 16th note triplets. Had to go back and listen to that one. For which I thank you. Any reason to get to go back and listen to Miles Smiles is a good one.

[Jazz]

Okay, I'm going to listen REAL hard! I hope I don't blow a fuse in my brain.

[3pointdeli]

is jazz on the up?

all i can say is, mcdonald's is on the down, so anything is possible. maybe people are getting better taste. wishful thinking?

[jazzypaul]

I hope jazz is on the up. I wish that White Castle was on the up. I wish casinos were on the up and up. There's an Ani DiFranco tune called Up Up Up Up Up. and I drink 7 up. Maybe now I'll just shut up...

[Amanda]

Yes - definitely some words of wisdom there!

I was interested to know your thoughts. I've only been into jazz for a mere 18 months and so I wanted to know if you really do think jazz is on the increase or it's just my awareness of it that is growing.

That said, my local arts centre seems to be holding more jazz events, we have a new Pizza Express for dinner jazz and a new annual Jazz Festival which began 2 years ago.

I've noticed jazz more and more on movies and TV, especially adverts but that I guess is because I know it is jazz now, I have an awareness of it whereas before, I didn't have a clue!

I agree with the person who said that it's probably more likely that it's young musicians who like jazz. That is how I became a jazz fan - I started taking piano lessons again and my teacher got me playing jazz and then I very quickly became hooked.

I suppose one way in which we could help jazz become more popular is to go to loads of gigs!

Sadly :( jazz is never going to be the most popular type of music but maybe that is not such a bad thing!

[Giant Steps]

Originally posted by Amanda
Sadly :( jazz is never going to be the most popular type of music but maybe that is not such a bad thing!

Yep, you're probably right. The masses don't like music that requires any sort of brain activity. God forbid people should actually think for themselves! :)


Good Cheese,
-GS-