What does your gut say? Bush in 04 or no?

[KolumBUZZ]

I'd like to hear what you all believe.

[bombastic]

God Willing-He's out on his privilaged Wasp ass.:smokin: My vote is "Against Bush". In an ideal world i'd vote for Nader, and he'd be elected,-but this ain't no ideal world, folks.:smokin: I ain't no realist either. I'm a Surrealist.:p

[gdogus]

I honestly believe he will lose, but I think it'll be a close race - for reasons I accept as a reality, though I cannot understand them. I also predict that Wesley Clark will be the winner.

[WestCoast Ghost]

Clark nudges out Bush by a couple of states (roughly the same as 2000 except Clark carries Arkansas & another southern state--hell, maybe even Florida!?)

[clifton]

The Valerie Plame scandal will be Dubya'a undoing. Not even Karl Rove can blow a CIA agent's cover and get away with it.

[3pointdeli]

don't kid yourselves. the cia thing will blow over and nobody will be punished. (neil young is right, bush is so slippery he makes clinton look like sandpaper.) maybe a low level hack will lose their job, but they'd be out of work when gwb gets voted out of office anyway, so big deal.

superstition prevents me from voting in this poll, but i certainly hope gwb is shown the door.

[joefont]

I'm absolutely certain that Wesley Clark will not be the party nominee. He's too politically green; he'll make some serious mistakes that will derail him. Will Bush be reelected? He should take it by five to ten percentage points.

[joefont]

Originally posted by joefont
Will Bush be reelected? Don't know. But I'm pretty sure that Clark will not even be the party nominee. He's too politically green; he'll make some serious mistakes that will derail him.

Well well...seems Clark's campaign manager has already resigned. Didn't think his decline would start so early in the game!

[gregk]

4 MORE YEARS!!!! 4 MORE YEARS!!!!! maybe with a decent governor in California we can take that state too

[bombastic]

Greg-You're just begging for it. Okay, here it is. You Idiot! :laugh: Your turn: Bombastic, you're the idiot! beat ya to it!

[Alexander]

Bush will lose, and I think he'll lose pretty badly. People are getting angry. Of course, Bush and Cheney could just cook up another 9/11-style attack to boost their numbers. Look for something nasty to happen next summer or early fall. Bush may even have to declare martial law! Wouldn't that be convienent?

[still life]

I obviously can't vote in your election, so, as an interested observer, and your next-door neighbour I do hope G.W. will, like his father, be a one-term President.
It makes me extremely nervous that he is rattling not only the Northern Korean cage, but in the last few days, the Cuban cage.
He refuses to believe that the invasion of Iraq was and is expensive, both from an economic standpoint and the loss of life and a destruction of a country point of view, not to mention the lies, lies and more lies that brought it about.
Just having ousted a tyrant isn't enough. Besides, neither Osama bin Laden, or Saddam Hussein are dead, or even captured, although lots of ordinary Iraqis are dead or maimed, their lives in ruin. But, what the Hell, they're "over there".
The "important" deaths, to American voters, will be their own sons and daughters, sent to Iraq for an endless war, apparantly over, according to G.W. in his photo-op on May 1.
Oh. Really??? Then how come there are soldiers being picked off almost every day still??? And where are the WMD's and the chemical and biological weapons, you know, the Imminent Threat???? "We'll find them eventually, at the cost of billions of dollars" just doesn't sound convincing to me. Does it to you??
The job losses, program cuts and other factors in the economy will probably be the reason Bush loses, if he does, just like Dad.
The apple .........etc.
I guess we'll see.

[bombastic]

Bush Sucks.

[Phil Kelly]

I truly hope not ..

but:

The GOP has SO MUCH money to spend ...

The Reichstag will do anything to hold on to power ...

Too many of our citizens are sheep ..with short attention spans .. that have bought the DUBBya line of faux patriotic wars ..

I really do hope I'm wrong here ...

:mad:

[Jazzmoose]

Originally posted by bombastic
Bush Sucks.

May I quote you on that? ;)

[bombastic]

Of course, you may! :smokin:

[Swinger]

I guess it takes once again just a "few" days to recount the votes in Florida and once again he will win even if he gets less votes. :D :D :D :D :D :D

[bombastic]

Has anyone noticed that Howard Dean doesn't have Lips? Did someone steal them? Did he lose them in an accident? The guy has no lips!!! That's usually a republican trait. Beware "Men Without Lips." :confused: Take a look at "Old Rummy"- no damn lips- Bush-very thin lips-Bush 1-very thin lips-Ronny Raygun-no lips!!! :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: Something's going on!!!

[clifton]

Yo bombastic, what's with your constant dissing of everything? Do you fancy yourself a wit? Do you even vote?

[still life]

The Bush Presidency has, so far, been a seies of photo-ops, bad speeches and administration-created crisis combined with clever public relations and a stifling of any voices of dissent. Those who suggest that truth has lost it's meaning are ridiculed as unpatriotic.
I noticed that the fictional account of the "rescue" of Jessica Lynch from the evil-doers, "Saving Private Lynch" is going to be re-shown soon.
America seems to have become a nation of vicarious patriots, watching staged events from the comfort of their TV rooms, totally detached from reality. They are fed what this administration chooses to have them know and accept it, with barely a whimper of dissent.
I think that there will be another crisis, televised of course, of major proportions, much like Sept 11, in the summer of 2004 and that will assure the encumbent administration's certain re-election.

I hope I'm wrong, but people's lives seem to be only pawns in this grasping for power. It's truly frightening.

[shawn·m]

Originally posted by still life
I hope I'm wrong, but people's lives seem to be only pawns in this grasping for power. It's truly frightening.

Ironic that the above words should be uttered on the 666th post in the political forum.

[bombastic]

yeah cliff,i do vote. I have a sense of humor, I don't fancy myself a wit. Is that harmless joke offensive to you? In all honesty? it's just a trivial joke. I'm hardly "dissing" anyone.

[jav]

Greg- I would be curious to know what you view as Bush's accomplishments that would warrant another four years. I am at the opposite end of the spectrum, feeling he is a menace to this country and the world. I have yet to hear an argument in favor of him that seemed even remotely logical or went beyond the terrorist threat doctrine. Care to give your take on his presidency and why you would like to see it continue? jav

[Chris A.]

http://www.redefeatbush.com/ca-launch/images/redefeat-bush-button-sm.jpg

And this time we won't be bamboozled by Rove's crooks.

[jazzscriveyn]

Dig this link! I like the Statler+Waldorf line :laugh:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/3207297.stm

[a.j. zeitlin]

I would have said earlier that Bush is a shoe-in but there's no telling what will happen in the next year. Bush took a vibrant economy and turned it on its head. No doubt CIA operatives are combing the foothills of Pak and Afgan with the objective of getting Osama's scalp before next November.

[bombastic]

"I'm the Commander,see...I do not need to explain why I say things. That's the interesting thing about being the President...I don't feel like I owe anybody an explaination."- President George W. Bush to the National Security Council

[Wombat Seedcake]

Dear people of the USA

Please get rid of that cretinous halfwit and the rest those corrupt cronies, then hopefully that we can get shot of that dose of primordial slime in Number 10. Mind you, who is there to take over? The UK parliament..what a shower of useless, underachieving, uninspiring 10th raters.

[bombastic]

Bush IS a filthy cretin. No argument from me, Wommy.:smokin:

[clifton]

Dubya is many things; ill=informed, duplicitous, willfully ignorant, inarticulate, fascistic, but he isn't stupid. If you think he's stupid, you're underestimating a shrewd politician and smart campaigner. Misunderestimate him, you lose. Take his full measure, you might very well win.

[Wombat Seedcake]

Originally posted by clifton
Dubya is many things; ill=informed, duplicitous, willfully ignorant, inarticulate, fascistic, but he isn't stupid. If you think he's stupid, you're underestimating a shrewd politician and smart campaigner. Misunderestimate him, you lose. Take his full measure, you might very well win.


but what of his strange interpretation of the English language and pitiful knowledge of the world outside his own back yard?

[still life]

Originally posted by clifton
Dubya is many things; ill=informed, duplicitous, willfully ignorant, inarticulate, fascistic, but he isn't stupid. If you think he's stupid, you're underestimating a shrewd politician and smart campaigner. Misunderestimate him, you lose. Take his full measure, you might very well win.



Absolutely. Ask Ann Richards, who lost the Governorship of Texas to him.
I actually made the mistake, when talking to a friend in NYC of calling Bush "naive" and was roundly shot down and rightly so.

No, Bush is not stupid or naive. He is, however not genuine either. This is a man who has capitalized on his ability to have "jes folks" identify with his public persona. He has succeeded in creating an atmosphere of fear and paranoia, from which the great majority of people depend on this administration to protect them.
People don't like to think that true terrorism is not something that they can be protected from. They want this administration to build a dome over them, making them impervious to the hell that has been created in much of the rest of the world. If this were possible, it would have been done already. A constant state of war will never bring peace or even wary co-existance between the West and the rest of the world. However, being at war exempts this administration from giving time to any domestic concerns and the snatching back of individual freedom has ratchetted up the fear that we are constantly under attack and Mr Bush and his administration are the only ones who can save us.
Very scary.

[bombastic]

I still think he's a stupid clown.

[Spike]

Bush will lose -- ironically -- in spite of a recovering economy because by next November Iraq will be widely perceived as an even bigger fiasco. By then it will be apparent to everyone that Bush's invasion of Iraq was a major wrong turn in the war on terror. Instead of focusing on bin Laden and al Qaeda -- who are responsible for 9/11 -- Bush put hundreds of American lives and hundreds of billions of $$$ in a war against a bloody tyrant who -- despite his villainy -- had nothing to do with 9/11 and posed no substantial threat to the security of the American people. I predict that Bush will lose by a small margin, but if al Qaeda strikes American soil again next year the margin could be huge.

[Phil Kelly]

Yesterday, I read an editorial in the Seattle PI
that pointed out that DUBBya is the first person
since the late unlamented Herbert Hoover that
has scored such a vast loss of jobs during
his administration..

For those of you who are too young to recall,
Hoover was the president that preceded the 30s Great Depression ..

If Americans continue to lose jobs, and the Iraq fiasco
continues to remain a deadly money and human life pit,
even some of those staunch DUBBya lovers are gonna
begin to question their already seriously flawed judgment
in backing this deadly troll and his even more deadly
entourage of fascists ..

It really would only take a few to get rid of him ( assuming the
Demos can come up with a reasonable facsimile of an electable
candidate , that is ..)


~pimp:

[Saundra Hummer]

The Valerie Plame scandal will be Dubya'a undoing. Not even Karl Rove can blow a CIA agent's cover and get away with it.

So far, so good Clifton! Where's the outrage, we're still waiting. You know if it were you, or me commiting such an overt act, you know where our butts would be, in a sling for sure.