Ii V I

[zaza]

Hi, if I want to practice walking through this progression, it's best to modulate through all of the keys, but if I start with C, that being Dm7 G7 and CMaj7, what key next, then what after that? If you see what I mean.

[EdByrne]

Hi, if I want to practice walking through this progression, it's best to modulate through all of the keys, but if I start with C, that being Dm7 G7 and CMaj7, what key next, then what after that? If you see what I mean.

Try this (keys descending in MA 2ns):

Dm7, G7, C MA7; Cm7, F7, BbMA7; etc. After six keys you need to start the process over:

Ebm7, Ab7, DbMA7; C#m7, F#7, B MA7, etc

This is a strong and common modulation of cadences, and a s such makes a good starting point.

[Jakeweiser]

you can practice it through the circle of 4ths. C F Bb Eb Ab etc. You can cycle through all the 12 keys and what is best about this method is

Chromatic things on Bass/Guitar are much easier to excecute then other instruments

Most Jazz progressions move across this Cycle anyway.

[zaza]

Great. I was thinking of just keeping it arps, 1 chord per bar, and just play the arps, then when I'm comfortable, start adding scale and chromatic notes.

[Morph]

Great. I was thinking of just keeping it arps, 1 chord per bar, and just play the arps, then when I'm comfortable, start adding scale and chromatic notes.

Try learning or inventing licks over the progression then transpose it round all the keys.

There are huge books filled with jazz licks and phrases which are quite easy to find and relatively cheap, but a more direct and (imo) better way of learning Jaz vocab would be to find recordings, and learn them straight from there!

If you know the changes to any jazz tunes, identify II V I's then find recordings and learn some phrases!

good luck. ~pimp:

[gennation]

Hi, if I want to practice walking through this progression, it's best to modulate through all of the keys, but if I start with C, that being Dm7 G7 and CMaj7, what key next, then what after that? If you see what I mean.

Read through this: http://gennation.jconserv.net/viewtopic.php?p=94#94

It's a 6 part lesson directly related to what you're asking about. It covers the ii-V-I Moving across the Circle of 5th's, and deals with subs, and scales, etc...it's good basic knowledge to have, and will answer your question.

(not sure what instrument you play, but it's written with the guitarist in mind)

[EdByrne]

Great. I was thinking of just keeping it arps, 1 chord per bar, and just play the arps, then when I'm comfortable, start adding scale and chromatic notes.

This is what my method explores, among other things.

[Thespheremon]

you can practice it through the circle of 4ths. C F Bb Eb Ab etc. You can cycle through all the 12 keys and what is best about this method is

Chromatic things on Bass/Guitar are much easier to excecute then other instruments

Most Jazz progressions move across this Cycle anyway.

I usually do this way also. However, because there are many ways to practice your ii-V-I's, you might want to try switching on yourself. Practice in 2nds one day, 4ths the next, 5ths the next, etc. So you don't get in a routine when you're changing keys. I try running them at all sorts of intervals so I'm actually thinking about it every single time.

~Thespheremon ~pimp: