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Chris A
January 27th, 2004, 02:49 PM
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January 27, 2004

Bush Admits Misleading on WMD

Less than a year after declaring there was "no doubt the Iraqi regime continues to possess the most lethal weapons ever devised,"1 President Bush and the White House began to openly "back away from its WMD assertions today."2 The New York Times reported, "White House officials are no longer asserting that stockpiles of banned weapons would eventually be found" after their weapons inspector, David Kay said he "doesn't think [WMD] existed" after the 1991 Gulf War.3

The backtracking is reverberating throughout the Bush administration. While Secretary of State Colin Powell told the United Nations last year that "our conservative estimate is that Iraq today has a stockpile of between 100 and 500 tons of chemical weapons agent,"4 he said this weekend that it could actually be "zero tons."5 Powell told the United Nations in 2003 that Iraq "can produce anthrax," that it might "have produced 25,000 liters" and showed a video of an Iraqi plane that dumping "2,000 liters of simulated anthrax" as proof, but he now says they might have produced no anthrax at all.136

Similarly, Vice President Dick Cheney, said before the war, "there is no doubt that Saddam Hussein now has weapons of mass destruction...to use against our friends, against our allies, and against us," but now says the war was about Iraq's "efforts to acquire weapons of mass destruction."7 The vice president also cited a classified report8 his own Administration has labeled "inaccurate" as the "best source" of proof that Saddam Hussein and Al Qaeda were linked.9

In response, the Administration is beginning to blame the intelligence community for the WMD fiasco, and planning an internal "review of prewar intelligence."10 Administration ally Kay concurred, arguing "I think the intelligence community owes the president [an apology] rather than the president owing the American people."11 Despite Mr. Kay's assertions, experts who knew the record of U.N. inspections knew that finding no WMD "was always a strong possibility . . .but Bush administration officials never acknowledged it."12

Earlier reporting found that senior Administration officials deliberately "bypassed the government's customary procedures for vetting intelligence,"13 and the White House set up a separate intelligence apparatus, the "Office of Special Plans," to "cherry-pick intelligence that supported its pre-existing position and ignoring all the rest."14 For example, the president's well-known declaration in last year's State of the Union, asserting that Iraq "sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa,"15 remained despite CIA demands to remove such allegations from his speech16.

Sources:

Presidential Remarks, 03/17/2003.

"White House Shows Less Certainty Now on Iraq's Arms", New York Times, 01/27/2004.

"Kay: No evidence Iraq stockpiled WMDs", CNN, 01/26/2004.

U.S. Secretary of State Colin Powell Addresses the U.N. Security Council, 02/05/2003.

"5 GIs Die In Iraq Attacks", CBS News, 01/24/2004.

Ibid.

Remarks by the Vice President to Italian Leaders, 01/26/2004.

"Critics blast Cheney for linking al Qaeda to Iraq", Scripps Howard News Service, 01/23/2004.

DOD Statement, 11/15/2003.

"White House to Review Prewar Intelligence on Iraqi Arms, New York Times, 01/26/2004.

"Kay wants inquiry on weapons estimates", Charlotte Observer, 01/26/2004.

"`They don't exist': Kay's words may boost global teamwork on arms control", Boston Globe, 01/25/2004.

"The Stovepipe" The New Yorker, 10/27/2003.

"Spies, Lies, and Weapons: What Went Wrong", The Atlantic Monthly, January 2004.

State of the Union, 01/28/2003.

"White House: CIA questioned State of the Union address", Miami Herald, 07/23/2003.

marvin g
January 27th, 2004, 04:24 PM
I'm a bit surprised that Cheney and crew didn't plant any WMD! :eek:

still life
January 27th, 2004, 05:51 PM
Originally posted by marvin g
I'm a bit surprised that Cheney and crew didn't plant any WMD! :eek:

So was I. But, we may be jumping the gun. There are months before the election. They may "find" them yet, or we may have another Sept 11 with Bush with a bull-horn, coping Presidentially, with photo-ops galore. Nothing would surprise me anymore.

KolumBUZZ
January 27th, 2004, 08:27 PM
Guys, have faith. There's a whole lot of pissed off working people in this country, and they're actually going to show up at the polls.

KolumBUZZ
January 27th, 2004, 08:48 PM
i'm predicting really high turnout for a change.

Saundra Hummer
January 27th, 2004, 09:13 PM
I missed most of the story, but there was one about G.E., Hallaburton, and other mega corporations doing business with countries that were using the funds to support terrorism, and other un-American activities. Not that the U.S. was the only country to be targeted using those funds.

These corporations knew full well that some of their funds went for terrorism, and anti-American activities, all of this while Dick Chenney was C.E.O of Hallaburton. A much more complicated story than I am able to relate here, as, like I said I missed most of it, but it is a travesty!

The greed of these men is stupendous, and it is beyond belief. I find it hard to stomach these facts, I want to believe they are just made up stories to turn us against government, and big business, but it is a fact, not just a made up story to garner viewers.

3pointdeli
January 28th, 2004, 04:05 AM
saundra, that story was on 60 Minutes this past sunday. there is probably a transcript available online. (actually, it wouldn't surprise me if CBS buried the transcript. CBS is a slimy network.)

Saundra Hummer
January 30th, 2004, 07:15 PM
I don't believe most people would have been against overthrowing a dictator with so little regard for human dignity or life, one who orders the destruction of his own people, like in Bosnia, Africa, and Iraq. We were against the Romanian dictator in the end, we were against the genicide in Bosnia, the barbaric acts in several nations in Africa.

We certainly did want to see an end to Saddam and his like, but did we need to be told so many falsehoods to accomplish this? I really don't think so.

Most people after the attempted plot to assinate George Bush would have perhaps been all for an attempt by us to overthrow Saddam, we surely had a right to try to overthrow him, but not knowing international law, I can't really say with all certainty. It is just that the world is susposed to be a better place without him in power, and hopefully it will be, but we do have to do things differently if we are to accomplish the lofty goals we have set for ourselves. Too many mistakes have been made, and are being made, too many enemies are being born, and forged for these goals to be easy ones.

I just wish we had looked at all other options before telling such falsehoods just to make sure that war was the outcome. We now have too much distrust for our leaders, and we are full well entitled to that distrust. They have earned it

It seems they have too little respect for the dignity of man. Putting our men and women in harms way, degrading them by putting them in danger, and not being truthfull as to why.

Another Oregon boy was killed this week!

How many Iraqui's have been killed?

Men and their follies, how tragic!

Chris A
January 30th, 2004, 07:45 PM
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a.j. zeitlin
January 31st, 2004, 07:10 AM
I had always assumed there were no WMD to be found so none of this came as a great surprise. I didn't necessarily oppose the the war but the administration's motives were always suspect. They view the Middle East as their personal laboratory and Bush remains an easy mark for those (Cheney, Rumsfeld, etc.) wishing to take advantage of his gulibility.

Saundra Hummer
February 12th, 2004, 05:19 PM
Just came back to this thread after a few days or however long it't been since we were posting on it, and I was just thinking that it must be hard for someone going through life knowing that the reasons for their being where they are is from no doings of their own.

We lived in a small town in Central California, one in which one everyone knew almost anyone, and everyone there, and their business. Just like in politics.

Our lives were made either hard or easier because of one relative. He was either despised or liked, nothing down the middle, and it became part of something that we had to put up with, even though we didn't like it either way, as we are our own people, we are not that other person.

How must it be for GW to know he was elected Governor because of name recognition, how that put him to the fore without ever having accomplished anything of importance in his own life.

How must it feel to be president because of the same reasons, that everyone ties him to his father, and his friends, not because of his being a great leader, or having accomplished anything of merit nationally, untill his take on 9/11, which is something we were all thinking, he is just the one who had the coverage.

How must it feel to totally rely on others policies and information, as he himself admits to not reading any publications, not watching television, or any other number of things that would keep any individual informed as to what is going on in the world, keep him grounded with the public. It must make for feelings of inadequacy, hence the stammering and stumbling for words like a person who was raised by distant parents, not being shown attention and talked to as an infant, and toddler. A problem with words like he suffers from often comes from living in that type of situation as a very young child.

I really feel that with his lack of knowledge he has to be a pawn of the men referred to as the "Power Brokers." If he is running the country on gut feelings alone, then lets hope for the best, as this is a frightening situation to say the least. If Cheney and the boys are running everything, then it is even scarrier. I find their policies to be more of a threat at this time than WMD's. I hope to the heavens on high that there are none, and that no one uses them on anyone ever, but to scare all of us with this threat, to let our justice system become hijacked by the fear mongers, especially after 9/11 is unconscionable. Really it is!