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Epithet
March 6th, 2003, 01:13 AM
Discuss.

Muskrat Ramble
March 6th, 2003, 04:20 AM
What I really dig about Tyner is that he's one of the relatively few pianists that I've heard who can be both propulsive and poetic in equal measure. Some of that Horace Silver-style energy and drive coupled with a sort of Bill Evans impressionism and lyricism or melodicism. (Not to say Tyner sounds just like those cats, but you take my point.)

The Real McCoy (RVG series on Blue Note, featuring the great Joe Henderson, Ron Carter, and Elvin Jones) is one of my all-time favorite jazz albums--though I've only been a hardcore fan for less than two years :) You can really hear what I'm talking about on that one and hear what a great jazz composer Tyner can be since all the tunes on the album were penned by him.

Tyner's soloing is one of the greatest of many highlights on Trane's My Favorite Things (Atlantic).

Tanager
March 6th, 2003, 06:36 AM
I may be in the minority, but Inception has always been perhaps my favorite McCoy disk. It's a bit more harmonically conservative, perhaps, but I never fail to enjoy it. To me, it's more lyrical than some of his later recordings.

Jim Dye
March 6th, 2003, 07:39 AM
Tyner and his trio are playing down here in Nashville in April. I look forward to seeing him live again. I saw the trio about 12 years ago in Chicago and they were outstanding.

Pharaohrock
March 6th, 2003, 09:54 AM
My whole style at the keyboard was based off Tyner initially. He's got a sound that "if it didn't exist, would surely have to be invented." Some of my favorite playing by Tyner doesn't occur on the quote-unquote classic records though......I think his playing on Bobby Hutch's "STick Up" is just incredible, and I also happen to love what he does on the 1983 Pharoah Sanders co-release "Love and Peace". Majestic statements.

3pointdeli
March 6th, 2003, 10:11 AM
mccoy and bobby hutcherson play great together. i haven't heard "stick up" (i need to since i'm a bobby hutch fan), but "time for tyner" is one i've always enjoyed.

i saw the trio two years ago in atlanta and they were really good.

Noj
March 6th, 2003, 10:13 AM
I have just recently been playing The Real McCoy a lot. I love "Contemplation."
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walkin
March 6th, 2003, 12:55 PM
My 3 Fav McCoy albums:
The Real McCoy
Tender Moments
Expansions

riverrat
March 6th, 2003, 01:05 PM
What do you other McCoy fans think of the 2 Cd set "Live at Sweet Basil"?

I think this is a fantastic set.

Pharaohrock
March 6th, 2003, 02:57 PM
Classic example of Tyner's trio in the 90s, but is that saying a whole lot? I don't know.....that drummer bugs me.

David H
March 6th, 2003, 03:38 PM
Last summer I saw McCoy Tyner and Bobby Hutcherson in concert at The Barbican, with Charnett Moffett on bass and Eric Harland providing some of the most amazing drum work I'd seen. In fact the whole concert was outstanding and recieved a standing ovation from the audience at the end of the concert. The standout performance for me was an extended work out on African Village, which lasted 15 min.

One of my favourite Tyner CDs is Atlantis, especially the title track. A critic I read described Tyner's piano playing as like receiving a rigourous yeti massage and finding you like it :D

mr jazz
March 6th, 2003, 05:14 PM
all good posts but that big band he gets together (when he can afford to have it working) just swings. I remember when I saw them at Blues Alley in DC a few years ago and they blew the place out. I remember they passed around a fiver to the best soloist. that bill changed hands several times. I sat so close to McCoy I could smell his cologne.

Pharaohrock
March 6th, 2003, 08:48 PM
What kind of cologne? Do ya know??

BFrank
March 6th, 2003, 10:47 PM
Lots of great McCoy albums. Some already mentioned - "Real McCoy", "Atlantis", etc. Another really strong set is "Super Trios". Great drumming.....if nothing else.

I saw his recent set at Yoshi's with Hutcherson, Cecil McBee and Jack DeJohnette. A REAL treat to see these 4 play together. At 90 minutes it was WAY too short.

Epithet
March 6th, 2003, 10:59 PM
One can't help but comment on the nonpareil version of 'Fly With the Wind' on The Greeting. There, I did. Glory be.

Anyone know what the upcoming Milestone reissue 13th House is like?

jazzdude
March 6th, 2003, 11:35 PM
My Favorites:

Fly With The Wind,
Bon Voyage,
McCoy Tyner and the Latin Jazz All-Stars,
Trident,
Supertrios,
Soliloquy,
Together

David H
March 7th, 2003, 11:23 AM
I'd have to add Asante to list list of favourite Tyner's, a very imagiantive recording. For me it sounds like an earlier acoustic version of Herbie Hancock's Mwandishi band with the use of reeds and percussion adding a similar texture to the music.

I've seen The Greeting and 13th House in the UK recording shops, but haven't bought them yet as I have only seen them with imported which doubles the price. Has anyone heard either of them yet?

Pharaohrock
March 7th, 2003, 02:48 PM
You're definitely not the only one who feels that way Adam. McCoy has gotten soft, there's no getting around it...the only thing he's involved with that has much vitality is the aforementioned big band, which is indeed quite ballsy.

(but I was referring to the drummer Aaron Scott, not AL Foster....)

sideshowbob
March 7th, 2003, 04:04 PM
Originally posted by David H
Last summer I saw McCoy Tyner and Bobby Hutcherson in concert at The Barbican, with Charnett Moffett on bass and Eric Harland providing some of the most amazing drum work I'd seen.

Yeah, amazing gig (and I don't even like the vibes, normally). Moffett is one of my favourite bassists ATM. He played with Ornette at the Barbican last year as well. Stunning.

I particularly like McCoy's solo work. One of my favourite recordings of his is "Echoes of a Friend". Solo versions of "Naima", "Promise" and "My Favourite Things" (fascinating), and two of his own compositions thrown in as well. Really beautiful stuff. (Talking of great solo piano versions of Coltrane tunes, Marilyn Crispell's "For Coltrane" has to be in there too.)

-- Ian

KolumBUZZ
December 11th, 2003, 05:57 PM
I recently had a chance to hear McCoy give a solo concert, and finally met the man...who is easily the biggest formative influence on my piano playing. He's a quiet, gentle man, just like they say.

KolumBUZZ
December 11th, 2003, 05:59 PM
I should add, it was very meaningful and I'd encourage any musician to seek out their "heroes" and meet them. At least from my perspective it has a way of humanizing them and it's good for gaining a certain closure (when you know you don't have to deify them to respect them).