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soulpope
March 10th, 2003, 01:26 AM
actually this was my last to the blue note reissue note, before realising it vanished. so use this as my first posrt to all about jazz :

in a little bit more than 2 months atavistic will release the following cd :
Mental Cruelty (The 1960 Jazz Soundtrack)
(UMS238CD)
It is described as following :

"In 1960, an astonishing jazz ensemble was convened by Swiss pianist George Gruntz to create a soundtrack for the Hannes Schmidhauser film MENTAL CRUELTY. The group included bebop innovator Kenny "Klook" Clarke on drums and Belgian saxophonist Barney Wilen, two of the most swinging and sensitive musicians on the planet.

Though the dark, lyrical, mysterious soundtrack was initially released on a 10-inch EP, legal difficulties led to its being recalled, and the few copies that were sold became incredibly valuable collectors items. Now, for the first time, the session is issued in its full glory, including several previously unreleased tracks "

Can somebody unveill some more detailed background infos on this release ??

regards emil

brownie
March 10th, 2003, 01:37 AM
Waiting for this release too. These were very hard-to-find originals. Never saw them. Ever.
By the way, Barney Wilen is not from Belgium. He was French-born of an American father and a French mother.

Muskrat Ramble
March 10th, 2003, 05:16 AM
Speaking of jazz film soundtracks, be sure to check out the various Jazz & Cinema volumes in the Jazz in Paris series. Some interesting stuff.

WestCoast Ghost
March 11th, 2003, 05:22 PM
Originally posted by Muskrat Ramble
Speaking of jazz film soundtracks, be sure to check out the various Jazz & Cinema volumes in the Jazz in Paris series. Some interesting stuff.

Do you have a link to those titles or that series, MR? I'd be very interested in the Jazz & Cinema titles...

brownie
March 11th, 2003, 11:32 PM
Originally posted by WestCoast Ghost


Do you have a link to those titles or that series, MR? I'd be very interested in the Jazz & Cinema titles...

Ghost, you should go to
www.universalmusic.fr
click on jazz and do a Jazz in Paris search.
You will have the full catalogue there.

king ubu
March 12th, 2003, 03:12 AM
anyone of you old europeans happens to know what happened to the jazz in paris edition of miles' "ascenseur pour l'echafaud" soundtrack? I've seen it once, some months ago, in a shop, but it seems to have disappeared completely, as the series of 100 cds counts up to 101 now (i think the miles one was vol. 3 or another of the earliest volumes).
I still got the old cd, no 24-bit, sounding not too good, so the jazz in paris edition would be a cheap and well-sounding replacement.

ubu

brownie
March 12th, 2003, 04:19 AM
Originally posted by king ubu
anyone of you old europeans happens to know what happened to the jazz in paris edition of miles' "ascenseur pour l'echafaud" soundtrack? I've seen it once, some months ago, in a shop, but it seems to have disappeared completely, as the series of 100 cds counts up to 101 now (i think the miles one was vol. 3 or another of the earliest volumes).

Ubu, Ascenseur pour l'Echafaud was volume 3 in the Jazz in Paris series. It should still be available. Saw it in a store recently.
The only Jazz in Paris CD that disappeared for sure is the Chet Baker 'Broken Wings' date (think this was vol. 8). It's not even shown in the Jazz in Paris catalogue.

Muskrat Ramble
March 12th, 2003, 04:57 AM
The Jazz et Cinéma titles are "Actuellement indisponible" though.

AFAIK, you can order any disc in that series through various US online retailers, like Amazon.com or BN.com (Barnes & Noble). That's how I've been getting mine so far.

Fwiw, Jazz & Cinema vol.2 contains tracks from Les tricheurs (Jazz at the Philharmonic with Diz, Eldridge, Getz, Hawkins, et al.), Des femmes disparaissent (complete? with Art Blakey and the Jazz Messengers--the Moanin' lineup), and La bride sur le cou (Bernard Vitet, Francois Jeanneau, Georges Arvanitas, Louis Trussardi, and Michel Babault).

brownie
March 12th, 2003, 11:00 PM
Originally posted by king ubu
anyone of you old europeans happens to know what happened to the jazz in paris edition of miles' "ascenseur pour l'echafaud" soundtrack? I've seen it once, some months ago, in a shop, but it seems to have disappeared completely, as the series of 100 cds counts up to 101 now (i think the miles one was vol. 3 or another of the earliest volumes).

Ubu, one of the reasons you cannot get the Jazz in Paris issue of the 'Ascenseur Pour l'Echafaud' sountrack is probably that Universal has recently re-released the 'Complete Recordings' of the Miles Davis music. This came out several years ago. The CD which has the original Fontana LP cover (with the beautiful Jeanne Moreau photo) includes previously unissued additional material (mostly alternate takes) amounting to some 47 minutes in addition to the 24 minutes that were on the original release (only the original music is on the Jazz in Paris) reissue.

king ubu
March 14th, 2003, 08:20 AM
thanks, brownie!
what was that baker vol. 8? the quartet session made right after the death of Dick Twardzik or another one? (Sorry, can't check 'cause I' at work)
concerning the Miles-Soundtrack: I have seen the reissue you're talking about, will get it one day. must be exactly the same as the cd i've got but hopefully in better sound condition...

ubu

king ubu
March 14th, 2003, 08:23 AM
just checked the "broken wing" on AMG. Is this worth tracking down?

ubu

brownie
March 15th, 2003, 11:31 PM
Originally posted by king ubu
just checked the "broken wing" on AMG. Is this worth tracking down?

ubu

If 'Broken Wing' is available, suggest you go ahead and get it. It's one of Chet Baker's very best latter-day album. Recorded in Paris in December 1978 with Phil Markowitz, piano, Jean-Francois Jenny-Clark, bass, and Jeff Brillinger, drums. This rare session was made for Sonopresse.