View Full Version : Should we include "Vocalists" as a forum category?
xricci
March 10th, 2003, 09:06 AM
"Vocalists" would appear as a forum category on http://forums.allaboutjazz.com.
Dan Gould
March 10th, 2003, 09:29 AM
I don't see where vocalists are any different from artists. Granted, some reject vocal jazz and some love it, but I think singing artists and instrument artists should have the same home: Artists.
xricci
March 10th, 2003, 09:39 AM
Here is Edward’s argument…
Well guys, if you do not want a category dedicated to vocalists that is fine. I do think that you miss the point, though, when you jokingly suggest dedicating forums to every instrument under the sun. There were a lot of interesting discussions about jazz influenced vocalists (e.g., Bennett, Gilberto, Martin, Starr, Sinatra, etc.) that I do not think would have occurred on the BNBB in the absence of such a forum. Of course, this obviously is not the BNBB. However, there are a lot of young jazz listeners who are interested primarily in vocal talent, and these people might not join this board otherwise. Indeed, it was Ella Fitzgerald and Sarah Vaughan who not only introduced me to jazz, but also inspired me to explore the jazz instrumentalists.
Additional vocal comments…
http://forums.allaboutjazz.com/showthread.php?threadid=472
RDK
March 10th, 2003, 10:32 AM
I voted "no"
I don't really object to it and I do understand Edward's position, but I'd rather not see it segregated from Artists (or Recommendations, etc.) and I do believe it's better to keep the number of forums down to as few as possible. Partly because it makes it a bit easier to navigate the board, but also because it will allow us to add forums later, if and when necessary, as the AAJ board grows and develops its own identity. If we end up talking a lot about vocalists then we can add it later. If trombonists dominate, then we can add that one too. ;) Let's just see how things go for a while before adding too many more fora...
OUT2LUNCH
March 10th, 2003, 01:44 PM
Yes, I think Vocalists should be added to the list of fora, damn! There's that word again!!!;)
omar zamora
March 10th, 2003, 07:45 PM
Nope. Too much. Just start a thread
vibes
March 10th, 2003, 08:22 PM
I voted no. Like a few others, I feel that vocalists can just be included in the Artists forum. They are artists, aren't they? The Artists forum would probably get a lot more attention anyway. The Vocalists forum on the BNBB often seemed to go for days at a time without a post.
orroonie
March 11th, 2003, 01:07 AM
I would suggest that a discussion on songs forum should be added to the vocalist forum. It would be of great interest to talk about great tunes like Stella by Starlight, Footprints, Take Five, Waltz For Debby. To Young To Go Steady, Summertime, Ruby My Dear, I Can't Get Started, Laura ect and Jazz singers and jazz artists that perform them.
BeRiGaN
March 11th, 2003, 02:09 AM
Originally posted by orroonie
I would suggest that a discussion on songs forum should be added to the vocalist forum. It would be of great interest to talk about great tunes like Stella by Starlight, Footprints, Take Five, Waltz For Debby. To Young To Go Steady, Summertime, Ruby My Dear, I Can't Get Started, Laura ect and Jazz singers and jazz artists that perform them.
I voted yes, just to be a trouble maker!
http://www.opelwerk.com/smiley-project/animated/devil-smilies/FIREdevil.gif
Actually, like others have mentioned, it didn't get much use on the other board, but they took it from us dammit!!!!:mad:
We want it to just be like the old place, down to the slow board, and the inability to search old posts
;)
savoy
March 13th, 2003, 03:21 AM
I vote .....(drum roll)..... YES !!!
P.S. Xricci, I love all the bells and whistles you guys have on this board; especially the "Preview Reply" button. Being somewhat of a newbie, it makes it a pleasure to want to post and/or reply. Thank you. :)
Fran
March 13th, 2003, 07:26 AM
I vote yes.
Though not as fully utilized in the BNBB as say New Releases or some other Forums (Fora?) there were often interesting and lively disscussions. If you wish to make it Vocalists and Songs as suggested above I will vote aye to that as well.:)
RonF
March 13th, 2003, 10:56 AM
I voted YES. There has been a vocalist forum everywhere I've ever been. With the growing number of vocalists, why wouldn't you add a vocalists forum?:confused:
Finger Poppin'
March 13th, 2003, 01:41 PM
To me it's all the same. Vocalist should fall under artists.
Fran
March 13th, 2003, 02:01 PM
Originally posted by Finger Poppin'
To me it's all the same. Vocalist should fall under artists.
That is true.and logical. But then I thought some sensible divisions are necessary to keep order. If the board was based on one forum "Music",we'd have an unmanagable string of threads to follow So I again vote for a Vocalists Forum as opposed to including it in Artists. It then becomes more logical to include Songs with Vocalists as of course Songs wouldn't fit with Artists
3pointdeli
March 13th, 2003, 02:19 PM
if someone had started a vocalist thread instead of this one asking if there *should be* a vocalist thread there wouldn't be any more threads than there are now.
Fran
March 19th, 2003, 10:56 PM
Originally posted by 3pointdeli
if someone had started a vocalist thread instead of this one asking if there *should be* a vocalist thread there wouldn't be any more threads than there are now.
But we are talking a Vocalist Forum not a thread. As said above we had some very interesting "Vocalist" threads on the BNBB. I think it was due to the encouragement of an existing Vocalist Forum. I haven't seen much in the way of vocalist commentary on this board.
Again, I think a forum so devoted would be welcome and take up very little space that should be devoted to other purposes.
Jazzmoose
March 20th, 2003, 12:06 AM
I voted yes. Just to live up to my new title...
But seriously, I think the fact that posts to the vocalist forum at the old BNBB is precisely why it should be seperated from "artists". Vocalists are a whole 'nother thing in jazz, and it was nice to have their threads easy to find when the need arose
Harold_Z
March 20th, 2003, 04:30 AM
I vote yes for the simple reason that it makes finding a thread you may be interested in that much easier. Also, I agree with xricci's view that it would stimulate more conversation on vocalists if there were such a thread.
Fran
March 20th, 2003, 07:42 AM
So lets do it.
It appears it is unanimous amongst all of us who agree:D
still life
March 21st, 2003, 08:34 AM
The vocalist is sometimes all a listener recognizes about a song. Expanding on the recording and talking about who was playing the date is easy to do and very informative.
So, lets give the warblers their own space.
Fran
March 21st, 2003, 03:22 PM
Boardmaster-it looks like there is a majority for it.
No sense in delaying any longer.
victor
May 13th, 2003, 12:50 PM
i voted yes because there are some really great vocalists especially in the jazz (classic) category.....ELLA....SASSY.....CARMEN.....BILLIE.. ...MEL.....JOE......
JIMMY.......SATCHMO......JOHNNY....... and thats just a few of the ones i really like
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