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chapina
November 17th, 2002, 07:06 AM
Anyone have any ideas on who instigated the slogan "Bird Lives"?
We have two candidates: Chips Bayard and Ted Joans
Any thoughts on this would be appreciated.
Brad
March 7th, 2003, 03:55 PM
Any thoughts on this question? Curious myself.
Chuck Nessa
March 7th, 2003, 04:54 PM
Don't know about the Bayard association, only Joans. Can you enlighten me?
Harold_Z
March 7th, 2003, 05:36 PM
I was under the impression it first appeared as Graffiti in the NYC subways.
Chuck Nessa
March 7th, 2003, 05:59 PM
Yes, we are talking about claims of authorship.
Dmitry
March 7th, 2003, 07:42 PM
I also read that Ted Joans coined the phrase.

He says so himself -
http://www.jazzkc.org/issues/1999-08/correspondence.html
Harold_Z
March 7th, 2003, 09:29 PM
Nice rap for Ted..."I was behind the graffiti."
chapina
March 23rd, 2003, 12:17 PM
Thanks everyone. I will go with Ted Joans for now. We did an interview with Ted for a local (Mexican) magazine and did not want to be completely wrong about "Bird Lives"

The other candidate Chips Bayard was the manager for Bird and only one source thinks it might have been him. I will trust Ted on this one.

Again Thanks
Finger Poppin'
March 31st, 2003, 12:31 PM
The leading historian on Charlie Parker is Phil Schaap, he works at WKCR, Columbia university. If anyone would know, he would. The station is 89.9 FM, it is also available on the Internet.
Noj
March 31st, 2003, 12:40 PM
There is a track called "O.D." by Lightnin' Rod with Jimi Hendrix and Buddy Miles that has "Bird Lives" in the lyrics. It is a song about a heroin overdose.
Chris A.
April 17th, 2003, 02:18 PM
Originally posted by Finger Poppin'
The leading historian on Charlie Parker is Phil Schaap, he works at WKCR, Columbia university. If anyone would know, he would. The station is 89.9 FM, it is also available on the Internet.

And if he doesn't have the answer, he'll readily make something up. He does this all the time/
Brad
April 20th, 2003, 09:48 PM
Regarding Phil Schaap, I'm not sure about "historian" but he does know a lot about Bird and his show is very useful, esp. to beginners. However, there is some truth to what Chris says. Not everything can be taken at face value. I've had this mentioned to me by a couple of people who are in the business.
Chris A.
April 21st, 2003, 07:53 AM
And when not everything can be taken at face value, whatever remains comes under suspicion. :rolleyes: