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Thread: Let's Hear It For... MARTIAL SOLAL!

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    Let's Hear It For... MARTIAL SOLAL!

    As far as I can tell, there aren't any Martial Solal threads on the board. And I've been really enjoying his music lately, so I thought I'd start one.

    I think his music is wonderful. I own several of his recordings, but I intend to get more. (Probably MANY more. ) Two recordings really "caught my ear" and brought me into Solal's sound-world: NY-1: Live at the Village Vanguard (a trio with F. Moutin & Bill Stewart) and Rue de Seine (a duo with Dave Douglas). I'd recommend both of them unreservedly.

    I've also heard Contrastes (a large band recording, made when Solal won the Jazzpar Prize), Suite for Trio, Solosolal, and Sans Tambour Ni Trompette. All of them are great -- and quite different.

    Any other recording recommendations?!?!?


    Here are a few articles I found on the web found about Solal:

    - http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2010...lal-jazz-piano

    - http://www.thenation.com/article/solaliquies

    - http://www.jazz.com/dozens/the-dozen...-martial-solal


    And here are a couple discographies:

    - allmusic.com: http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p...ifixqy5ldae~T2

    - http://ohbayashi.com/toku/music/solal/solaldisco.html


    So, have any of you had a chance to see Solal perform?

    Or do you have any other thoughts or impressions about Solal's music?

    Don't be shy! Chime right in.
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    Agreed. Very fine player with lots of worthy ideas.
    Lately I have just reacquainted myself with some of his earliest recorded work, the sessions with Bechet in Paris, playing all standards.
    Solal holds his own very nicely, daunted as he must have been by the majestic presence of Bechet. They've been remastered and reissued very recently in Europe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by robbo View Post
    Agreed. Very fine player with lots of worthy ideas.
    Lately I have just reacquainted myself with some of his earliest recorded work, the sessions with Bechet in Paris, playing all standards.
    Solal holds his own very nicely, daunted as he must have been by the majestic presence of Bechet. They've been remastered and reissued very recently in Europe.
    Cool. I'll have to check those out. I love Bechet too.
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    Yes Hutch,

    BTW, thx for offering some advice on bikes in the other thread. Yes, I love that NY1 from the Village Vanguard release, its one of my favorite of his. I also love his more recent Live at the Village Vanguard release. If you like him with a larger band, I'm sure you'd LOVE his "Plays Ellington" with his Dodeca band... you've got to hear what he can do with Ellington! I didn't catch him at the Vanguard, but I heard him play at Lincoln Center a few years back, and it was an amazing experience. He's got such incredible piano technique, that its a challenge to follow his ideas and his playing as it unfolds. I was lucky enough to catch him with a pretty special band. He had the Moutin brothers as a rhythm section, and he also had both Phil Woods and Steve Lacy with him. Ah, they made music that night!

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    I need to revisit it, but I liked Longitude, with Louis and Francois Moutin.
    When I grow up, I want to be like Roy Haynes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Justin V View Post
    I need to revisit it, but I liked Longitude, with Louis and Francois Moutin.
    I can definitely second this album. It blew my mind, although i haven't investigated further.

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    This is one of my favorite Solal:



    Lee Konitz, Martial Solal
    Stareyes, Hamburg 1983

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    Quote Originally Posted by NewJazz4Mike View Post
    I was lucky enough to catch him with a pretty special band. He had the Moutin brothers as a rhythm section, and he also had both Phil Woods and Steve Lacy with him. Ah, they made music that night!
    Wow! What a line-up! I love all of those musicians. Wish I could have seen that concert!
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    Quote Originally Posted by save View Post
    This is one of my favorite Solal:



    Lee Konitz, Martial Solal
    Stareyes, Hamburg 1983
    save, that one is on my "to-get" list. Got to get it soon.

    I suppose pretty much anything with both Solal & Konitz is worth checking out. Of the Konitz/Solal collaborations, I've heard European Episode/Impressive Rome, Live at the Berlin Jazz Days 1980, and Four Keys. All of them are excellent -- especially the duo recording from Berlin.
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    Just found another Solal article that I thought I'd share. It's from The Village Voice by Gary Giddins.

    http://www.villagevoice.com/2001-10-...ctly-solalian/
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    Another Solal article. This one's from JazzTimes.com:

    http://jazztimes.com/articles/18296-...-french-modern
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    Thumbs up

    I like his playing. I think he's got plenty of technique and many good musical ideas. His creativity level seems high, based on the recordings I've heard.
    "Don't play what's there, play what's not there.”
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    I hate to be a nay-sayer, but I consider Martial Solal the epitome of the soul-less, cerebral, European-style "jazz" pianist. To me, it's all improvisation for the sake of showing off, it's all virtuosity without passion, technique for the sake of technique. No rhythm, no guts, no soul.

    I even bought a two-fer of a live, solo recital of Solal's, "Martial Solal improvise pour France Musique." I hated it so much after one playing that I gave it to a friend--a French friend. [You can hear clips on Amazon.com and judge for yourself.]

    The only thing I have of Martial Solal's that I consider worth listening to is, Key for Two, a two-piano vinyl recording of Solal with Hampton Hawes, an undeniably great pianist in my book and--I expect--in anyone else's. To the best of my knowledge it's only available in vinyl, but it's worth searching for. It seems that some of Hampton Hawes's soul rubbed off on Solal.

    Jagor

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    Solal's playing is certainly not laden with blues clichés (if that's what you mean, jagor) - but his awesome technique isn't just for show. If I had to find one adjective to characterise his playing, I suppose it would have to be "witty".

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    Quote Originally Posted by jagor View Post
    I hate to be a nay-sayer, but I consider Martial Solal the epitome of the soul-less, cerebral, European-style "jazz" pianist. To me, it's all improvisation for the sake of showing off, it's all virtuosity without passion, technique for the sake of technique. No rhythm, no guts, no soul.

    I even bought a two-fer of a live, solo recital of Solal's, "Martial Solal improvise pour France Musique." I hated it so much after one playing that I gave it to a friend--a French friend. [You can hear clips on Amazon.com and judge for yourself.]

    The only thing I have of Martial Solal's that I consider worth listening to is, Key for Two, a two-piano vinyl recording of Solal with Hampton Hawes, an undeniably great pianist in my book and--I expect--in anyone else's. To the best of my knowledge it's only available in vinyl, but it's worth searching for. It seems that some of Hampton Hawes's soul rubbed off on Solal.

    Jagor
    I have to agree here.

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