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Old October 26th, 2008, 07:05 AM   #1
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In a Silent Way ?

Hi if got a question for all the fusion heads. I really like In A Silent Way from Miles, how it sets a certain mood and keeps that mood going all the way. It's really a very relaxing mood but it's keeps you going (for me that is). Now I was looking at some other fusion efforts from Miles but some don't really have that certain vibe over it as IASW has, they seem more aggresive and that's not really my style. So what other albums from Miles (or others) would you recommend with the same kind of mood as IASW?
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Old October 26th, 2008, 12:53 PM   #2
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I honestly can't think of anything to recommend you, Mondo. In A Silent Way is a completely unique masterpiece in a class of its own, in my opinion.
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Old October 29th, 2008, 07:49 AM   #3
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So what other albums from Miles (or others) would you recommend with the same kind of mood as IASW?
In my opinion, Weather Report's first albums can suit you.

Above all, the first ("Weather Report"), "Sweetnighter" and "Misterious traveller".

After all, Shorter and Zawinul belonged to both line-ups...

You can try also Zawinul's self-titled solo album (1970), which contains a likely original version of "In a silent way"...
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Old October 31st, 2008, 11:12 PM   #4
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You can try also Zawinul's self-titled solo album (1970), which contains a likely original version of "In a silent way"...
Yes, run out and buy Zawinul. You can buy it cheap ($8.98) directly from the label, and shipping is pretty fast: http://www.mosaiccontemporary.com/albums.asp. You will love it.
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Old November 2nd, 2008, 12:25 PM   #5
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See if you can The Complete "In a Silent Way" Sessions boxed set.

It has some great material in the same or similar mood as IaSW--which is also included, of course. It also includes material originally released on Filles de Kilimanjaro, Water Babies, and Big Fun--which are all worth checking.
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Old November 3rd, 2008, 05:26 AM   #6
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See if you can The Complete "In a Silent Way" Sessions boxed set.

It has some great material in the same or similar mood as IaSW--which is also included, of course. It also includes material originally released on Filles de Kilimanjaro, Water Babies, and Big Fun--which are all worth checking.
Mmmmh.... Big Fun? Are you sure?

Actually, Big Fun contains material coming from the complete "Bitches brew", "Jack Johnson" and "On the corner" sessions...
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Old November 3rd, 2008, 10:39 AM   #7
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Mmmmh.... Big Fun? Are you sure?

Actually, Big Fun contains material coming from the complete "Bitches brew", "Jack Johnson" and "On the corner" sessions...
You're right. I just checked. I'd thought "Recollections" (at least) was on the IaSW box, but it's on the BB box instead. In any case, mood on this and other tracks from all of the boxes is much like IaSW imo.

Thanks for the correction. Problem is that I don't really listen to the discs, but to the mp3s--so the sources of the material all run together for me.
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Old November 3rd, 2008, 06:24 PM   #8
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In my opinion, Weather Report's first albums can suit you.

Above all, the first ("Weather Report"), "Sweetnighter" and "Misterious traveller".

After all, Shorter and Zawinul belonged to both line-ups...

You can try also Zawinul's self-titled solo album (1970), which contains a likely original version of "In a silent way"...
I think Miroslav Vitous' Purple would perfectly match Joe Zawinul's self-titled album. I just listened to both albums some days ago. Ron Carter's Mood is pure beauty. Unfortunately this album hasn't been reissued on CD, and it seems to be a very rare item on the used vinyl market. Someone offers the Japanese release on ebay for US $69.99 !!!
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Old November 4th, 2008, 12:15 PM   #9
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I would definitely say that Filles de Kilamanjaro from Miles has somewhat of the same feel of In a Silent Way. As well, I would agree with the recommendation of Zawinul and would toss in, although it's hard to find, Miroslav Vitous' "Mountain in the Clouds."
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Old November 11th, 2008, 01:52 AM   #10
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Maybe not the kind of album you're exactly looking for, but try to give Elixirs of Guapo a try.
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Old November 5th, 2009, 01:45 AM   #11
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bitches brew

'Bitches Brew', the album, thats got a similar feeling. The Five Peace Band also do a version of in a silent way.
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Old November 5th, 2009, 09:29 AM   #12
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Maybe also check out Herbie's SEXTANT and Wayne's MATO GROSSO FEIO? And it ain't quite the same thing, but it's a nice vibe, the Jan Garbarek/Miroslav duo record (whose name escapes me right now).

It's called ATMOS...
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Old November 6th, 2009, 12:45 PM   #13
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Early Weather Report, and I feel some 70's ECM artists can get the same kind of vibe going on.
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Old November 6th, 2009, 03:13 PM   #14
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I think the version of "Silent Way" on the Zawinul album is later.

The first full version of the number seems to be the "rehearsal" version on the complete sessions where it's given an arrangement similar to the title track on Filles de Kilimanjaro.

Apart from those already mentioned Filles de Kilamanjaro, Zawinul, Mountain In the Clouds, (also released as Infinite Search) it might be worth checking out Nucleus - Elastic Rock and We'll talk About it Later also some music from that era by Graham Collier (may be hard to get hold of).

EDIT Another one - John Surman -Way Back When

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Old November 6th, 2009, 05:10 PM   #15
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I think the version of "Silent Way" on the Zawinul album is later.
Of course it is... Zawinul brought the composition to the sessions, but Miles changed many chords, to Joe's disappointment. So, the later version on "Zawinul" seems to stick more to the writing...

However, both Nucleus albums are other good recommendations (the first more than the second, I think... )
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