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One Blues Strategy
Just wanted to share.
Students frequently have issues with how to use b3 and 3. One of the strategies I've discovered that has been helpful is: If the Key(or any other reference point) is obvious, then b3 will want to resolve to 3 or 2. Especially if the 6 is in play. If however the the b3 has really become what our ear is measuring against (It has become a reference point, a root or extension) then the 3 takes on the attributes of a b2. Examples can be found in how easy it is to get 1 1 b3 3 1 or TT 4 b3 1 b3 to work vs. TT 4 b3 3 1. "TT" by the way is just faster(it just means a Tritone) and more accurate for me. I tend not to say b5 and #4, which are are really different colors because they are measuring from more than one place. Hope I shared a useful idea.
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Can you explain what you're saying a little more clearly? I don't understand your point about b3 wanting to resolve itself to 2 or 3. A melody based on a blues scale doesn't require either of those resolutions. How can a 3 take on the attributes of a b2? I also don't get the examples you're counterposing to each other. Cheers, Jer |
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Here's a link to a YouTube video I just did. I hope it clears up some things. I know my language/labels can be different. I apologize for that.
http://youtu.be/OYyRm1Ud8Ic |
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All he's doing is trying to play a basic blues lick, as far as I can tell.
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"Tonicizing" can almost mean what I was doing with b3. The 3 sounding resolved however was because of the key becoming more obvious.
Why I don't use the word "Tonicizing" is because of a couple of reasons: 1) It is based on what notes are played. "These notes are this key" kind of thinking. I've come to realize over the years that any tendency has the potential to create a "Tonic". 2)I've also come to realize that the ear can perceive multiple measurements as long as it has the space to do so. Notice that the E I'm playing low still sounds like my key, even though I'm creating an additional 1 on the G. If I go high to create a new measurement, then I'm creating an "Extension". Even in a simple Maj7 the root can sound different (more tense) up high. The usual argument is that it's a voicing issue, which works if we're playing chords. My point is even with no simultaneous notes, if down low 7 is resolving to 1, but up high 1 wants to go to 7, then I need to know that. If we label these the same and they do opposite things how can we predict what it will sound like. To me if 1 is resolving to 7, then I've placed my measurement stick in the wrong place. I'm probably extending on 3 if its darker or 5 if its brighter. Quote:
Where we usually get messed up is when a note doesn't sound like what we thought it would. One of the main reasons this happens is because our ear has changed its 1 or added a 1. |
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Please watch the video again. I think maybe you misunderstood what I was trying to accomplish. I was in no way trying to show how "well" I can play. Maybe I'll do that in a future video if that's what you're into.
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