New book on musical time theory

[pogo02]

It seems that the Amazon Prime link is even simpler:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/prime

[pogo02]

Dear jazz oud,

Thank you for taking the time to write such a long piece of advice. If you look at my original post, you will notice 2 links at the bottom.
The second one, entitled "poster", leads to a longer and more detailed description of the book – precisely the sort of thing you suggested me to put down on paper.
The first one, entitled "Facebook" leads to the FB page of the book. You can find there things such as the contents of the book, my CV, the list of references and a few other things (look for the pictures and/or the posts).

If you already visited those pages and are still in doubt as to whether my book is worth considering, well, I think you should just borrow it through the Amazon Prime program (for free), look through it, and make an opinion.

Best wishes…

[pogo02]

I just tried to attach a PDF file here (a few pages from the theoretical section of the book), but it seems that I am too new in the allaboutjazz neighborhood to be allowed doing that. The Commandment is stated in bold letters at the bottom of this page (as I see it): "You may not post attachments". Aye aye sir!

[pogo02]

For those interested, here are the chapters of the book (page numbers relate to the original PDF version, not to the Kindle edition). I hope this helps those who expressed their desire to know more on the actual subject of the book:

The Music of the Temporalists

Contents

page:

01 Introduction
03 The concert
07 Who these people are and what is that they want from me
24 I meet Herr Sch… etc.



31 The 50 millisecond temporal grid
33 Temporal modes and the perceptual thresholds
35 The IOI 100 ms temporal mode
38 Sounds as a vector of expressiveness
40 The IOI 200 ms temporal mode
43 The assimilation of the temporal modes
46 The IOI 150 ms temporal mode
48 The temporalist music semiography
51 The IOI 250 ms temporal mode
55 TH-AR prosody in temporalist music
60 The IOI 300 ms and IOI 350 ms temporal modes
63 The illusory life of accents
70 The intermediate temporal modes
74 The IOI 400 ms temporal mode
78 The compound temporal mode IOI 450 ms
79 The compound temporal mode IOI 500 ms
84 The compound temporal modes IOI 550 ms, IOI 600 ms and IOI 650 ms
86 Temporalist vocal music
88 Musical rests and non-durations
92 The compound temporal modes IOI 700 ms, IOI 750 ms and IOI 800 ms
94 Perception, estimation, approximation
97 TH and AR pulsations in relationship with their duration
and the various perceptual thresholds
104 Crepitus acciaccaturas (or crushing notes)
108 The passages or the „pulsatory modulations“
115 Equations and poetry
118 We are temporalists without knowing
126 Pulsatory groupings
132 A (very) approximate history of temporalist music



146 The last week
155 Home
156 Letter from Marseille
157 References

[dsschicago]

Originally Posted by pogo02

I just tried to attach a PDF file here (a few pages from the theoretical section of the book), but it seems that I am too new in the allaboutjazz neighborhood to be allowed doing that. The Commandment is stated in bold letters at the bottom of this page (as I see it): "You may not post attachments". Aye aye sir!

I believe attachments are turned off for everyone on the site; not just you or other newbies. It was a response to spam attacks.

However, a way around that is to post the pages in questions on your site or a flicker account or facebook, and then link to them as Images, which will then allow the pages to show up in a post as would an album cover image.

Cheers.

[dogbite]

Originally Posted by Jeff Brent

Sorry, I just don't have the time to read fiction.

Originally Posted by jazz oud

Sounds kind of interesting, honestly.


Since you were "advised to contact various music-related communities" to "promote" it, allow me give you some free marketing advice:

In order to promote something, you need to give people an idea why it might be interesting, useful, helpful, fun or otherwise beneficial to them.

All you've done here is told us that you've written a book. You haven't even bothered to give us any idea what it's about or why anyone should take the time to read it.

I know you're saying "you can just go to Amazon, click "search inside" and read some of it". Do you see why this won't work for 95% of your intended audience? Why would I bother to go to the trouble unless I had some reason to think it would be worthwhile? The "promoting" part of promoting your book is for you to tell us why we should do that in the first place.

If you want people to buy your book, then you need to do the work of putting together a few sentences suggesting why anyone should bother; then people might take it upon themselves to look into it further.

You seem to be offended that people are asking you why they should care about your book. They are asking because they don't know you, or anything about you, which is the normal response. Maybe their comments were a bit snarky, but rather than getting offended and defensive, it would be more helpful to just respond with an enthusiastic explanation of what's so great about your book.

There has been a spate of amateur theorists recently posting about their books and their supposedly revolutionary ideas; so folks might be a bit jaded and skeptical around here. Dogbite's endorsement carries a lot of weight; he's no ingenue.

I know this is rather blunt, and I hope I haven't offended you. I just find your behavior perplexing and thought maybe this would help.

the posts i quoted above are from two of my AAJ friends, and are among the group whom i happen to respect the most. if i look at the developing dialog actually, i personally find the responses to pogo's introduction perplexing.

"what is the book about?"

it's about time; i could tell that from the title and it took me but a single click to go to the amazon kindle site where i could read more. perhaps this is because i've been reading a lot on my kindle lately, mostly fiction but my own books (even the one written with jeff, and jonnypac's) are all on my kindle too; it's a great way to carry stuff around so i like browsing the kindle store...

"I just don't have the time to read fiction."

as to the fiction/non-fiction thing, i would cite that often a fictional back-story may lead the reader to truths that, although quite real, may be difficult to present as mere textbook knowledge. for example, here is my review as posted on amazon:

"Although told as a fictional story, the substance of the book is rooted in the real science of human cognition as regards to musical time. It has inspired me to re-examine my own preconceptions of time and rhythm, as well as create new exercises in order to experience the precepts of this imaginative and clever guide. The fictional part of the story is a charming introduction used to bring the reader to a new place where assumptions about time may be challenged and experienced without bias. I am enjoying it a great deal. Highly recommended!"

the book leans toward the technical side; but i like technical, and i don't think jeff smith's post was intended to point out anything more than that he doesn't like to read theory books (jeff will duly inform me if i'm wrong) which is perfectly cool with me. iow, he wasn't directing this (i've seen that pic here before) specifically towards pogo...

a bit off-topic perhaps, but i do wish we would be a wee bit less "snarky" when someone doesn't say what they wish to say in just the right way in their first two posts. this place is not a writing school (now that was snarky of me wasn't it; hey, what is a snark anyway...) rather, it has become a wealth of musical knowledge. further, i personally wish that we, as a community at AAJ, would be more supportive of each other in our respective efforts. for example, i learned of ed byrne's chromatic targeting books by coming here; they're fantastic! phil kelly's big band releases are second to none! and jonnypac's book has so much great stuff packed into one place it's mind-boggling. and if jazz oud ever writes a book i'll be first in line!!!

perhaps i can make pogo's case better than he can at present because he's new and nobody knows him but on the other hand, not everybody likes me all that much all the time either in any event, i must point out that his language in the book is perfectly comprehensible; to me it is anyway, tho at times it becomes clear that english may not be his first language and i'm okay with that too.

and i wasn't kidding when i said that his book has inspired me to write out exercises in regards to rhythm and time. i hope that pogo sticks (pun intended) around long enough that we may all learn from each other.

i have babbled and now i will go away. i will post the substance of my exercises on dogbite's thread shortly. great weekend to all, what's left of it anyway

ps - and thanks mr. oud for the kind words; i really do appreciate it! you are quite correct that the blog world has become a repository for some pretty quacky ideas of music theory, but of course this is not new. perhaps we may be a first step, a sort of "airlock," in preparing those about to pitch their wares in the real world by softening them up to the realities of the marketplace. my first book was published in 1993 and after all that time, i have come to the conclusion that my books are written primarily for me and are to be shared with the outside world in a very personal way. iow, if you like 'em that's great! and if not, well, that's fine too and others have written great books for you to check out as well...

[dogbite]

pogo02,

jazz oud is right: you should put together a "press release" style blurb so that that initiating first contact amounts to more than "click-and-go-see." the public is wary of fumbling through the bowels of the internet (forgive the dark metaphor) because even though your link was very straightforward, many are not and may send your unsuspecting computer to unwanted sites.

in any case, congrats on getting your work to amazon kindle! i must ask: is there any plans to produce hard copy versions? just curious...

[jazz oud]

Originally Posted by pogo02

Dear jazz oud,

Thank you for taking the time to write such a long piece of advice. If you look at my original post, you will notice 2 links at the bottom.
The second one, entitled "poster", leads to a longer and more detailed description of the book – precisely the sort of thing you suggested me to put down on paper.
The first one, entitled "Facebook" leads to the FB page of the book. You can find there things such as the contents of the book, my CV, the list of references and a few other things (look for the pictures and/or the posts).

If you already visited those pages and are still in doubt as to whether my book is worth considering, well, I think you should just borrow it through the Amazon Prime program (for free), look through it, and make an opinion.

Best wishes…

I don't have a kindle.

Amazon prime isn't free.

My post was not about myself personally, but your approach in general.

[pogo02]

Originally Posted by jazz oud

I don't have a kindle.

Amazon prime isn't free.

My post was not about myself personally, but your approach in general.

Hi,
First, you don't need a Kindle device to read my book (or any Kindle book for that matter). Just download the mac or pc free software:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/feature.htm...cId=1000426311
or
http://www.amazon.com/gp/feature.htm...cId=1000464931

Secondly, as far as I know on Amazon Prime you benefit from one month trial period – and that is for free. You could use that trial period to borrow my book. As I am not personally subscribed to Amazon Prime, I might be wrong, but that's what I have read on their webpage.

There is a huge yellow button here:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/prime

it reads: Start Your One Month Free Trial!

DO IT NOW!
No, wait, there is more…

Best wishes,
the Pog

[pogo02]

Originally Posted by dogbite

pogo02,

jazz oud is right: you should put together a "press release" style blurb so that that initiating first contact amounts to more than "click-and-go-see." the public is wary of fumbling through the bowels of the internet (forgive the dark metaphor) because even though your link was very straightforward, many are not and may send your unsuspecting computer to unwanted sites.

in any case, congrats on getting your work to amazon kindle! i must ask: is there any plans to produce hard copy versions? just curious...

dear dogbite,
When I started my "promotion campaign" I consulted my wife (real job, multinational company, capitalism at its best – and the like) who told me that the main message should be anything but SHORT. Nobody reads long letters of introduction - I was told. This, and if I prefer, to add links to more detailed presentations. This is what I did and, as far as I see, the sales are on the increase
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net...00318831_n.jpg

(1 week before that the book was in the Amazon Kindle Books Top 800.000…)

As regards the hard copy. I tried to find a manager/publisher for more than a year, both in Romania and abroad. However the experience did not put me in a mental asylum, which means that I didn't do all my best to see the book printed on paper. But I was close to that. Finally, I was advised by my good and old friend Stephen Malinowski (http://www.musanim.com/) to share the book in electronic format. Which I did, as you know, less than 3 months ago.

Yours,
Pogo

PS: in Romanian, snark was translated sherkin (sharpe-snake + rekin-shark).

[pogo02]

Tomorrow, February the 15th 2013, my book "The music of the Temporalists" (Kindle edition) is available for free on Amazon.com:
http://www.amazon.com/The-music-Temp.../dp/B006FWZLSI
Enjoy the reading!

[engelbach]

Originally Posted by pogo02

Tomorrow, February the 15th 2013, my book "The music of the Temporalists" (Kindle edition) is available for free on Amazon.com:
http://www.amazon.com/The-music-Temp.../dp/B006FWZLSI
Enjoy the reading!

I'll look for it.