I love Woody Shaw....but who else?

[bazzie]

I can't get enough of Woody Shaw! I love his playing style and the general sound of his group. I particularly like the tracks which include a trombone eg Rahsaan's Run.

Any suggestions of other artists in this genre I should listen to?

Thanks.

[walkin]

Freddie Hubbard
Lee Morgan
Charles Tolliver
Donald Byrd

[1/2 Baked, Not Fried]

I often associate Woody Shaw with the great tenor man, Joe Henderson. They came onto the scene around the same time in the early '60's, and had a similar ethos, I think - i.e., both grounded in hardbop, but with at least one foot planted firmly in the post-bop of the '60's. They both made an early name for themselves as sidemen for Horace Silver - which can be heard on Silver's excellent "Cape Verdean Blues." Henderson was present on Shaw's first album as a leader - an obscure lp called "In the Beginning" or "Cassandranite," which never saw release when it was recorded, but was later released under different titles in the '70's, after Shaw became better known. Henderson was also there on a couple of Shaw's last releases - Neil Swainson's 49th Parallel and one or more lp's released by the Paris Reunion Band in the late '80's (I can't recall which ones off the top of my head). In all, they recorded together maybe a dozen times, but played together a lot more than that - including a stint where Shaw was a member of Henderson's band back in the early '70's.

Anyway, if you dig Woody Shaw, I'd definitely check out Joe Henderson, if you haven't already.

[walkin]

One of my favorite Shaw/Henderson team ups was on Larry Young`s Unity

[bazzie]

Thanks for the suggestions. I shall have to leave this lying around hoping my partner gets the hint for an early Christmas present!

[HutchFan]

To my ears, both Freddie and Charles Tolliver sometimes sound a bit similar to Woody -- only sometimes though. Woody had his own unique thing going on. He's one of the all-time GREATS in my book.

Since you like Woody with trombonists, how about this recent release by Steve Turre, Woody's former sideman? It's a Woody Shaw tribute record with several superb trumpeters (John Faddis, Wallace Roney, Claudio Roditi, and others).


Woody's Delight

I haven't heard it (yet), but it's gotten excellent reviews.

[HutchFan]

Originally Posted by walkin

One of my favorite Shaw/Henderson team ups was on Larry Young`s Unity

[Funkin']

This thread has reminded me that I need to further delve into Woody's discog. I've only gotten the fantastic Bemsha Swing, so now I'll have to start exploring.

And I know it's not Woody himself but I think I'll start with Hutch's Steve Turre suggestion...

[bazzie]

Originally Posted by Funkin'

This thread has reminded me that I need to further delve into Woody's discog. I've only gotten the fantastic Bemsha Swing, so now I'll have to start exploring.

And I know it's not Woody himself but I think I'll start with Hutch's Steve Turre suggestion...

I agree..a great suggestion. Next on my list. Thanks Hutch!

[kh1958]

Originally Posted by walkin

Freddie Hubbard
Lee Morgan
Charles Tolliver
Donald Byrd

This list, plus Clifford Brown and Booker Little.

[0859]

When considering other musicians who might be connected with Woody, one should not limit their list to trumpet players, particularly since Woody primarily studied saxophonists and pianists and was into many other types of music besides jazz. As mentioned already, Joe Hen is one connection. But there's also Bobby Hutcherson, Joe Chambers, George Cables, Gary Bartz, McCoy Tyner, Jackie McLean (1960s), Eric Dolphy, Larry Willis, Stanley Cowell, Billy Harper, Billy Hart, Herbie Hancock (straight ahead stuff), Tony Williams, Azar Lawrence, Joe Bonner. Most of the cats from the latter half of the 1960s and 70s are in some way conceptually connected to Woody as that was the period he came up in.

A good place to draw these connections is Woody's discography. The most complete I've seen is here: http://woodyshaw.com/discography.

Also, The Official Woody Shaw Website points to a lot of useful information on Woody - www.WoodyShaw.com and his Facebook page www.Facebook.com/WoodyShawLegacy as well.

Also keep in mind that Woody studied 20th century classical music - Bartok, Hindemith, Kodaly, Schoenberg, and all the modern guys. Woody listened to everything, including African and Eastern music, which is why his style is so unique and original. He was essentially a composer/improviser who brought his own unique musical conception to the trumpet, but Woody could have played any instrument and he still would have sounded like no one but himself.

[0859]

By the way, there is an AMAZING recording of Woody sitting in with Elvin Jones at http://woodyshaw.com/happy-birthday-elvin

....and another one with 18 year old Wynton Marsalis at http://woodyshaw.com/woody-shaw-feat...marsalis-1980/

Just FYI...

[Funkin']

Originally Posted by kh1958

This list, plus Clifford Brown and Booker Little.

Not to mention Thad Jones.

[0859]

Originally Posted by Funkin'

Not to mention Thad Jones.

Thad is a legend but I wouldn't put him and Woody in the same context - other than the fact that he was Woody's
inspiration for picking up the cornet. Clifford and Booker, however...yes.