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Old May 12th, 2003, 02:02 PM   #1
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What Music Do You Enjoy Besides Jazz?

Mine:

Classic Rock
Pink Floyd
The Beatles
Jimi Hendrix Experience/Band of Gypsys
The Who


Soul
Sam Cooke

Rap -(Being young and black, it is expected that I love rap, which is an awful stereotype, but I do like some rap, just not the mainstream stuff)

Public Enemy
The Roots
Outkast
The Streets

Rock/Metal/Indie
Stone Roses
Godspeed You Black Emperor
Radiohead
Tool

Blues
Robert Johnson
Little Walter
Muddy Waters

Other
Marvin Gaye
King Crimson
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Old May 12th, 2003, 02:07 PM   #2
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Check this thread out Jazz Kid:

http://forums.allaboutjazz.com/showt...&threadid=1290

Welcome aboard, btw.
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Old May 12th, 2003, 02:31 PM   #3
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only other music i listen to is SINATRA.....everything else is jazz 24/7
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Old May 12th, 2003, 03:03 PM   #4
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Interesting choices on the rap side.

When I did, and if I would....

Public Enemy
NWA
Big Daddy Kane
Run DMC...


I am mostly jazz these days, but still have some interest in a little rock, and r&b.

Megadeth
Godsmack
Pantera
Iron Maiden
The Temptations
Barry White
Judas Priest
Slayer
Anthrax
The Four Tops
Thin Lizzy
Aerosmith (pre comeback days)....

70's and 80's Old School!

Kiss
Ratt
Dokken
Motley Crue....
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Old May 12th, 2003, 04:46 PM   #5
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Only Funk, Soul, Blues & Psychedelic rock for me...

Though I can get down with mostly anything from the early to mid seventies.
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Old May 12th, 2003, 05:48 PM   #6
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King Crimson, Zappa, Neil Young
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Old May 12th, 2003, 08:42 PM   #7
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Blues, Classical, Rock are my basics.

Speaking of Rock, if your a Pearl Jam fan you can get official "bootlegs" from their current 2003 tour from this site


http://www.pearljambootlegs.com/

They are shipping them out 2-4 weeks after each new concert. There are also the concerts that have already taken place.

So far there are a total of 37 as of May 3rd. 22 from the U.S. leg of the tour and 15 from the Australian/Japan leg of the tour.

I am surprised more of the better groups don't do this.

Of course there is also the upcoming CD and DVD from Zeppelin with close to 9hrs of live Zeppelin. There is no overlapping between the two releases.

I have had advance copies and if you're a fan you're going to want these!!!

They are scheduled for May 27 and they are priced pretty low.


Finally the new release from the current version of Metallica is coming out June 2nd I believe. Personally I am not much of a fan of the new bass player. Though since Cliff Burton died the Bass player really hasn't been much of a factor in this band. Bob "Bon Jovi" Corporate Rock does the bass work on the upcoming record since the new guy hadn't joined yet. The new bass player is from one of the classic LA Punk Bands Suicidal Tendencies and of late with Ozzy "Sell Out" Osbourne.

From what I understand after pissing off their hardcore fans (like myself) for the last 10 years with the more commercial Bob "Corporate" Rock influence they are going back to the old classic Metallica sound. But I understand there wont be any guitar leads, which continues it seems the death of the lead guitar in Rock.
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Old May 13th, 2003, 12:15 AM   #8
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Nowadays, my listening and interest is mainly focused on JAZZ.

But I enjoy classical music (I had a couple of shelves full of Bach, Beethoven, Mozart, Albéniz, Vivaldi, Schubert, Haendel, Stravinsky, Richard Strauss...) and opera (Rossini, Bellini, Donizetti, Wagner, Verdi, Monteverdi...) and attend (when I have time to) classical concerts as I live very near from National Auditorium, here in Madrid.

Of course, I never let BLUES down!

And I have my rock-60´s-psichodelia-rock´n´roll-hard rock-pop CD and LP collection in boxes. These days I only listen to some Dylan, some Van Morrison, Rolling Stones, Buddy Holly, Elvis... (but it only takes 1% of my listening time)
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Old May 13th, 2003, 03:39 AM   #9
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The new bass player is from one of the classic LA Punk Bands Suicidal Tendencies and of late with Ozzy "Sell Out" Osbourne.
That's Robert Trujillo!!! He is a hell of a bass player - hopefully he'll bring some positive influence. Metallica's post 'Black Album' releases are quite pathetic indeed... Jason Newsted si actually an excellent player and from what I understand he was less than happy about the bonjovisation of the band. Oh well, we'll see - I don't have much of an expectations...
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Old May 13th, 2003, 04:21 PM   #10
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First off I forgot to mention Reggae and some Rap. Classic Rap like PE, NWA, Ice Cube 1st, Tupac, Dre's 1st, Snoop's 1st, etc... and a very limited amount of Country, Williams and Cash.




Trujillo may have been a fine bass player at one time but if you have heard the abomination of what they did to Ozzy's Classics Blizzard of Ozz & Diary of a Madman in the most recent reissues you will hear some pretty sad playing. They ruined both recordings by having Trujillo and Ozzy's current drummer overdubbing the original bass and drums on those recordings. It was some really sloppy playing by both Trujillo and the current drummer. Never mind what it says about him that he would agree to basically try to eliminate the work of other musicians.


On top of that MTV recently gave Metallica the Icon award and Metallica performed with Trujillo for the first time and after his time with Osbourne he has turned into a parody. It was like watching some sort of Spinal Tap parody the way he was playing. Making idiotic faces and playing in one silly position after another while making the faces.

That's not how he played when he was with Suicidal Tendencies.

Don't get me wrong about Newsted I think he was a good bass player but after Burton died the rest of the band made Newstand's life miserable from the moment he joined the band. On top of that they buried the bass in the mix. So in essence they made the bass pointless.

He left for many reasons. The Corporate Rock influences the way he was treated by Hetfield and Ulrich and finally Hetfield told him he was not allowed to release a record with his side project at the time. So he finally had enough.


The funny thing is Kirk Hammett mentioned in an interview that was part of the Icon show that Newsted would have been happy the way Metallica is playing and getting along now.
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Old May 13th, 2003, 04:41 PM   #11
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Mnytime, you still follow what's going on in the 'metal' scene! There was a thread somewhere here on metal...there it is: http://forums.allaboutjazz.com/showt...=&threadid=658 - you might want to contribute - my knowledge is 10 years old, at best...
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Old May 13th, 2003, 05:06 PM   #12
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Yea, kind of hard to avoid since my best friend was the guitar player for a pretty good size band at one time. Even if the old singer seems to have a Howard Hughes and KFC issue at the moment. My friend and the remaining members of the previous band (even a one time Milk Carton Missing Member, of course with him your never really sure) have their own Project that they are trying to find a singer for. Actually they already have the new singer. Though it is not official yet and when you start involving lawyers anything can happen. He does sing on the two soundtrack recordings.

The current Project is providing a cover of Pink Floyd's Money for the soundtrack of The Italian Job and a original song for the soundtrack for the upcoming Hulk.


That and I am still a Rock fan at the core. Though these days good groups and recordings are few and far between.
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Old May 14th, 2003, 10:08 PM   #13
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Right now, I'm developing a major passion for late 60's/early 70's rock. Listening to "Moby Grape", bought "The Complete Doors Studio Recordings" AND The Grateful Dead's "The Golden Road" Box the past month, and I'm digging everything! Going back to that rock I just missed as a youth. If I start wearing tie-dyed t-shirts, just turn your head away and pretend to don't see me.
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Old May 16th, 2003, 07:01 AM   #14
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Cool, the Metal Militia is here! (I'm another classic metal fan, and a whole lot of what I play on guitar is classic Metallica, Megadeth, Sabbath, etc.)

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Making idiotic faces and playing in one silly position after another while making the faces.
One fan referred to him as "a gorilla with pigtails"--harsh, man!

Re: Newsted and Trujillo, there's a cover story on them in the latest Bass Player magazine.

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Metallica's post 'Black Album' releases are quite pathetic indeed
Actually, the Black Album itself was the beginning of their fall from metal grace. OTOH, it does have some fun songs with some classic riffs (the main ones from Enter Sandman, Wherever I May Roam, etc.). Even Load has its charms, if you take it as a bluesy hard rock album a la AC/DC, instead of listening with the preconception that it's supposed to be a metal album. Reload, OTOH, I've yet to be able to listen through, and I've been a fan since the mid 80's

You know, Hetfield had something interesting to say in the Art of James Hetfield book (written for guitarists): their music got so intricate and extended with AJFA, that it became an exercise in memorization and dexterity for them as players and they felt that the fans started to tune out during some of the songs and that the band and fans weren't feeding off each other's energy as well because of those factors. Makes sense, though personally as someone who regularly listens to hour or hour-and-half symphonies, a ten minute metal song breezes by

Anyway, if you mainly dig classic 80's Metallica, listen to Iced Earth. They picked up the torch when Metallica dropped it. Check out Something Wicked This Way Comes, for example. Very much in the vein of Ride/MOP/AJFA-era Metallica, with a fair amount of Maiden and of course plenty of their own stylistic touches. Cool stuff. Their rhythm guitarist/songwriter is a monster--the guy comes up with some killer riffs (even though he doesn't structure them together as well as Hetfield/Ulrich, who are unsurpassed in that regard, imo), and he has a bionic right hand--he's lucky his picks don't melt when he plays Their lead singer, despite a bit of vocal over-acting, is one of the best in the genre, in the classic mold of Dickinson or Halford, something you sadly don't hear much these days with all the Cookie Monster death metal growlers.
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Old May 16th, 2003, 07:22 AM   #15
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...Their lead singer, despite a bit of vocal over-acting, is one of the best in the genre, in the classic mold of Dickinson or Halford, something you sadly don't hear much these days with all the Cookie Monster death metal growlers.
Well, you can still listend to Dickenson - as far as I understand, Maiden is working on a new album now. I quite liked their last one... forgot how it's called..oh! 'Brave New World'. Dickenson sounds better than ever on it, IMHO.
As for death metal growls, yeah that's a bit irritating to listen to now (even in high school I had some problems with it, although I remember the growling of the Obituary's guy was hair-raising indeed...) - why wouldn't they substitute it for a tenor saxophone or something ...
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