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jav · November 27th, 2012, 07:01 AM

Lately have been seasoning my taste for improvisational music with an oddity for me- seventies pop and rock. As one who moved straight from r&b into fusion jazz and beyond, rock music just never has resonated with me, and yet here I am listening seriously for the first time to the likes of Eric Clapton, Steely Dan, and the Rolling Stones along with seventies pop favorites like Janis Ian, Cat Stevens, and Renaissance

Music997 · November 30th, 2012, 03:19 PM

I like all of it but it seems as if lately I only listen to the newer stuff.

Tenor Titan · November 30th, 2012, 08:13 PM

jazzbluescat · December 1st, 2012, 06:06 AM

I'm stuck in late 50s thru early 70s Coltrane, Mile and Mingus, and related styles of jazz.

princeplanet · December 2nd, 2012, 06:06 AM

After listening to predominately Hard Bop from say '55 to '63 for many years, I'm just starting to catch up to the mid 60's, that blurry line between (what we now accept as) Hard Bop and "Post" Bop. Was starting to tire of the predictability of the Hard Bop tunes, particularly the heads. In fact, I'm starting to realize how I find most of the heads, even on my favorite albums, unsatisfactory! i suppose that's how Shorter, Henderson, Hancock etc must have felt as well.

So now I'm on the hunt for something that is a little more supple, angular and surprising, but not too much! I hope I never only listen to avant-gard or free jazz (Dolphy is the only truly "outside" player I like), it just doesn't do anything for me. Seems there was this golden period around the mid 60's before the whole jazz world fell off the cliff in a rush to be ultra "modern". Any recommendations are welcome.

As a post script, I'd like to say something in defense of those of us seemingly stuck in a kind of jazz time warp. I have never, and will never apologize for it, and nor do I feel anyone should. Where is it engraved in the hallowed tablets, that "Jazz must constantly evolve and progress" ??? I recently came across the musings of one Miles Mathis, possibly the smartest man alive right now (read his hundreds of papers "correcting" the faults of modern physics! ). Dubbed our new Rennaissance man - he also critiques art, literature and music brilliantly - he convincingly contends that most endeavors in all the arts have peaked and that anything with pretensions to modernity, in this post-post-post-post modern world, is necessarily devoid of substance owing to being modern for "modern's sake". Sure, if it wasn't for humanity's drive to push envelopes, we'd still be painting biblical frescos and composing fugues in the style JS Bach, so change is good. No question, but, too much change for the sake of change creates elitism, out of sync with public tastes. Of course in the last century there have been many examples of the arts leading public tastes sometimes by a decade or two. However for the ideas of true substance, the Van Goh's, Dali's and Picassos of this world eventually were accorded due respect. But there abounds now a plethora of art, literature and music movements that will never receive public acceptance, and yet take themselves seriously as though they one day will. Heck, I even like some modern stuff (in all the arts actually), but not because I'm supposed to, but only because I'm old enough now and confident enough now to know what I like, and to not give a rat's ass what other's think about it. Life is way too short to remain pretentious beyond one's youth...

(Rant nearly over..) .. Went to the corner store to get some soft drink the other day, peered in the wall sized fridge and was confronted by a zillion options. Choice is good, right? But I've tried all the iced teas, the sports drinks, the "energy" drinks etc etc.

Just give me a coke fer chrissakes! , and make it in the kinda bottle they had back in 1965. Why? Because my tastes tell me it never got better, even if your tastes tell you different. That's OK, different strokes an' all that guff. But don't think me a fool for preferring Coke, or old Mustangs, or the Chrysler building over the modern versions.... and I won't think you a fool for preferring cinnamon spiced pear flavored iced tea spiked with psuedo caffeine.......

Deal?

November 27th, 2012, 07:01 AM	#31
jav Registered User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: coastal region of Virginia Posts: 911	Lately have been seasoning my taste for improvisational music with an oddity for me- seventies pop and rock. As one who moved straight from r&b into fusion jazz and beyond, rock music just never has resonated with me, and yet here I am listening seriously for the first time to the likes of Eric Clapton, Steely Dan, and the Rolling Stones along with seventies pop favorites like Janis Ian, Cat Stevens, and Renaissance __________________ "Music washes away from the soul the dust of everyday life."

November 30th, 2012, 03:19 PM	#32
Music997 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Houston, Tx Posts: 85	I like all of it but it seems as if lately I only listen to the newer stuff. __________________ "You should watch these AMAZING JAZZ VIDEOS right now!" "Click Here!" Jazz Piano Videos "Get help with your JAZZ MUSIC THEORY and get 2 FREE Ebooks!" "Sign Up Right Now!" Jazz Music Theory Help

December 1st, 2012, 06:06 AM	#34
jazzbluescat Oppressed into submission Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spring Lake, NC Posts: 5,737	I'm stuck in late 50s thru early 70s Coltrane, Mile and Mingus, and related styles of jazz. __________________ A lot of good arguments are ruined by some fool who knows what he's talking about.

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princeplanet Registered User Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 660	After listening to predominately Hard Bop from say '55 to '63 for many years, I'm just starting to catch up to the mid 60's, that blurry line between (what we now accept as) Hard Bop and "Post" Bop. Was starting to tire of the predictability of the Hard Bop tunes, particularly the heads. In fact, I'm starting to realize how I find most of the heads, even on my favorite albums, unsatisfactory! i suppose that's how Shorter, Henderson, Hancock etc must have felt as well. So now I'm on the hunt for something that is a little more supple, angular and surprising, but not too much! I hope I never only listen to avant-gard or free jazz (Dolphy is the only truly "outside" player I like), it just doesn't do anything for me. Seems there was this golden period around the mid 60's before the whole jazz world fell off the cliff in a rush to be ultra "modern". Any recommendations are welcome. As a post script, I'd like to say something in defense of those of us seemingly stuck in a kind of jazz time warp. I have never, and will never apologize for it, and nor do I feel anyone should. Where is it engraved in the hallowed tablets, that "Jazz must constantly evolve and progress" ??? I recently came across the musings of one Miles Mathis, possibly the smartest man alive right now (read his hundreds of papers "correcting" the faults of modern physics! ). Dubbed our new Rennaissance man - he also critiques art, literature and music brilliantly - he convincingly contends that most endeavors in all the arts have peaked and that anything with pretensions to modernity, in this post-post-post-post modern world, is necessarily devoid of substance owing to being modern for "modern's sake". Sure, if it wasn't for humanity's drive to push envelopes, we'd still be painting biblical frescos and composing fugues in the style JS Bach, so change is good. No question, but, too much change for the sake of change creates elitism, out of sync with public tastes. Of course in the last century there have been many examples of the arts leading public tastes sometimes by a decade or two. However for the ideas of true substance, the Van Goh's, Dali's and Picassos of this world eventually were accorded due respect. But there abounds now a plethora of art, literature and music movements that will never receive public acceptance, and yet take themselves seriously as though they one day will. Heck, I even like some modern stuff (in all the arts actually), but not because I'm supposed to, but only because I'm old enough now and confident enough now to know what I like, and to not give a rat's ass what other's think about it. Life is way too short to remain pretentious beyond one's youth... (Rant nearly over..) .. Went to the corner store to get some soft drink the other day, peered in the wall sized fridge and was confronted by a zillion options. Choice is good, right? But I've tried all the iced teas, the sports drinks, the "energy" drinks etc etc. Just give me a coke fer chrissakes! , and make it in the kinda bottle they had back in 1965. Why? Because my tastes tell me it never got better, even if your tastes tell you different. That's OK, different strokes an' all that guff. But don't think me a fool for preferring Coke, or old Mustangs, or the Chrysler building over the modern versions.... and I won't think you a fool for preferring cinnamon spiced pear flavored iced tea spiked with psuedo caffeine....... Deal?