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Old January 20th, 2004, 10:10 PM   #1
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Don Rendell Ian Carr Quintet Re-release

At last someone has done the good deed and re-released them!
Shades Of Blue & Dusk Fire on one CD.
locate them here
http://www.bgo-records.com/detailsBG...logNo=BGOCD615
Well done BGO Records!
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Old January 20th, 2004, 11:13 PM   #2
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Great news! I have to get those soonest.
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Old January 20th, 2004, 11:43 PM   #3
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Wow Stan you really keep your ear to the ground - I've only just found out myself. Great news and hopefully the other three albums will be following in hot pursuit soon (along with the missing Nucleus album 'Alleycat'). This is good news for British jazz. Now we must concentrate on the others missing in action. Suggestion: What about Tubby Hayes' classic 'Mexican Green'?
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Old January 21st, 2004, 01:31 AM   #4
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Thanks for the info...... excellent news. And as has been pointed out..possibly a sign of things to come.

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Old January 21st, 2004, 03:47 AM   #5
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Just spoken to Andy Gray, Head of BGO and he has confirmed that this double CD will be available to purchase in about two weeks but you can order in advance on the BGO web site. He also confirmed that the other three Rendell-Carr 5tet albums will be released in the next few months as a two for one and single album respectively. I think BGO deserve a lot of praise because they are actually investing a lot of their money in this and there is never a guarantee with jazz re-issues that they will sell enough. Although in this case I think they probably will sell! Maybe they will do some more re-issues by other UK jazz artists. Again, well done BGO!
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Old January 21st, 2004, 04:06 AM   #6
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Excellent news
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Old January 21st, 2004, 09:03 AM   #7
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Marvellous news. Just as I was grumbling (on another thread) about the failure of these to reappear...

I'm intrigued though. I recall a discussion last year in the wake of Impressed which had a major label that controlled this catalogue thinking about reissue; there was something in Jazz UK too. Or were the Carr-Rendalls not part of that?
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Old January 22nd, 2004, 02:25 AM   #8
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This was and still is Universal who hold the back catalogue to a vast amount of stuff including the RC5. BGO Records are savvy enough to be able to get contract from Universal for things they believe will sell. BGO have done some brilliant re-issues for British Jazz including Surman, Westie, Ian Carr, Centipede and even Graham Bond. They should be really applauded. However, it is Universal who take a long time to license these records to third parties but often (to be fair) because it takes a long time to ensure all appropriate persons have been contacted and are willing. This doesn't mean we shouldn't actively encourage BGO to re-issue more Brit jazz and we really should. There are precious few other specialist re-issue labels who dare to touch British jazz out there or who are capable or willing to do this other than BGO (at this level). Personally, I think the day when Universal (UK)themselves (as opposed to Universal Japan) take it upon themselves to re-issue this material on their own label (with the notable exception of Gilles Peterson Impressed volumes 2-200) will be the day that we see vast quantities of flying pigs in the sky
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Old January 22nd, 2004, 08:44 AM   #9
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Oh, I did not intend to slight BGO. It's great a label cares enough to take the trouble. I suppose I was just a bit worried that all the other wonders promised might have been sent back to the archives!

No, well done BGO. I'll order my copy direct!
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Old January 22nd, 2004, 11:15 AM   #10
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I hope Gareth (Stan Tracey) doesn't mind me copying this post of his from last March but this is what has had my mouth watering:

Here's a copy of an email I just received (no joke)
Hi Gareth,
I understand you've been in touch with Tom Lewis at Universal about reissuing many classic but long neglected jazz albums. I worked on the recent 'Impressed' album with Gilles Peterson. It's amazing to think that this has been the first proper look at this incredibly inventive time.
I amworking on volume 2 of Impressed and hope to include tracks by Neil Ardley,Stan Tracy, Mike Westbrook etc.
Please find below a list of albums I hope to
reissue over the next 2-3 years:
Mike Taylor Quartet - PENDULUM (Columbia SX 6042) 1965
Mike Taylor Trio - TRIO (Columbia SX 6137) 1966
Dusko Goykovich - Swinging Macedonia (Columbia SX 6260)
Neil Ardley - Ian Carr - Mike Gibbs - Stan Tracey - Argo (E)
ZDA164/65,1974
Stan Tracey Trio - Perspectives (Columbia) (LP) (E) SCX 6485
Stan Tracey - UNDER MILK WOOD (Columbia)
Stan Tracey with his Big Band - Seven Ages of Man (Columbia) (LP) (E) SCX6413
Stan Tracey Quartet - Free An' One (Columbia) (LP) (E) SCX 6385, 1969
The Stan Tracey Big Brass - We Love You Madly (Columbia) (LP) (E)
SCX6320 &
Philips (LP) (Eu) 849.105BY.
Stan Tracey - The Latin American Caper (Columbia) SCX6358, 1968
Stan Tracey Quartet - With Love from Jazz - (Columbia) (E) SX6205 ,
1967
The Stan Tracey Big Band: Alice in Jazzland - (Columbia) EMI (LP) SCX
6051
Paul Gonsalves/Tubby Hayes - JUST FRIENDS - (Columbia) EMI (LP) SX
(SCX)
6003 , 1965
Neil Ardley - WILL POWER (Argo ZDA 164/5) 1974 R2
Neil Ardley - A SYMPHONY OF AMARANTHS (Regal Zonophone SLR2 1028) 1972
R2
New Jazz Orchestra - WESTERN UNION (Decca SKL 4690) 1965 R2
Neil Ardley, Ian Carr & Don Rendell - GREEK VARIATIONS (Columbia / SCX
6414) 1970
Laurie Johnson Conducts Music For Combined Jazz and Symphony Orchestra
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SYNTHESIS (Columbia EMI SCX 6412)
New Jazz Orchestra - DEJEUNER SUR L'HERBE (Verve SVLP 9236) 1969
Michael Garrick Trio - COLD MOUNTAIN (Argo ZDA 153) 1972
Michael Garrick Band - HOME STRETCH BLUES (ZDA 154 Argo / Decca) 1972
Michael Garrick - TROPPO (1974)
Michael Garrick - HEART IS A LOTUS
Michael Garrick - OCTOBER WOMAN (Argo (Z)DA 33) 1965
Michael Garrick Septet - BLACK MARIGOLDS (Argo)
Rendell / Carr Quintet - SHADES OF BLUE
Rendell / Carr Quintet - DUSK FIRE
Rendell / Carr Quintet - PHASE III
Rendell / Carr Quintet - LIVE
Rendell / Carr Quintet - CHANGE IS
Amancio D'Silva - INTEGRATION
Guy Warren - AFRO JAZZ
Mike Westbrook - RELEASE / MARCHING SONGS / LOVE SONGS

I hope to be bale to reissue most, if not all, on both CD and LP with
original artwork plus extra sleeve notes and tracks where applicable.

Best regards,

Tony Higgins
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Old January 22nd, 2004, 10:14 PM   #11
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I have emailed Tony Higgins twice this year on this subject but sadly have received no reply from him,
This I presumed was bad news!
So it was a very pleasant surprise to see the BGO release this week.
I hope the many people who read this thread also put orders in to encourage the re-issue sereies from BGO maybe they will take up Tony's mantle.
I'll try to email him one more time.
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Old January 22nd, 2004, 11:53 PM   #12
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No I didn't think you were being critical of BGO. I do think you and Gareth are right, in that we should actively encourage (by dint of high sales) BGO to take on more re-issues of other British jazz artists. I hope Gareth won't mind if I e-mail the letter from Tony Higgins to Andy Gray at BGO to give him something to mull over?
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Old January 23rd, 2004, 12:17 AM   #13
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I'd be pleased if you would
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Old January 23rd, 2004, 02:02 AM   #14
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Will do!
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Old January 23rd, 2004, 07:00 AM   #15
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Andy Gray has now responded to my e-mail with a terse but positive reply 'Interesting! Thanks' so we must keep our fingers and toes crossed.
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Old January 23rd, 2004, 08:16 AM   #16
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Excellent work, Gareth and Roger.

I seem to recall Ian Carr commenting that the initial Nucleus reissues sold out. There's a market for this music.
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Old January 24th, 2004, 02:44 AM   #17
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I might be one of the few Americans who's heard a Rendell-Carr album. It was 35 years ago, I was in college, and an eccentric friend played it for me. I don't remember which album it was, but I remember digging it. And I remember being extra-impressed because supposedly, European rhythm sections didn't swing, but this one sure did.
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Old January 24th, 2004, 08:24 AM   #18
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You might be one of the few jazz fans anywhere who've heard a Rendell-Carr album, Clifton! The originals have been MIA for thirty years with only a couple of live/reunion CDs to represent them.

Incidentally, I ordered last weekend, before this news broke, a new release called 'Live in London', the Rendell-Carr band in the mid 60s. It was well received in Jazz Review with just a little caution over the sound quality. Anyone heard it?

Incidentally, I checked the BGO site. When I went to order the disc a windo opened saying their security certificate for online transaction was either out of date or not yet valid. They might want to sort this out if they are not going to lose custom.
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Old January 24th, 2004, 08:40 AM   #19
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RC5 'Live in London' (apart from being a geographical misnomer unless you count Surrey as London) is very good. The main disappointment (for me) is that it's in mono, but nevertheless the Jazz Review review didn't exaggerate. An essential item for all RC5 devotees and a very interesting historical item for followers of modern British jazz.
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Heres a copy of a review I did on the "Live in London" release for the Euro Jazz Website which can be found here

http://www.euroclubdejazz.com/rendellcarrgs.htm

Continuing the excellent "Live in London" series comes a previously unreleased live recording, from without doubt the UK's greatest ever small
jazz group.
Recorded in Michael Garricks, Jazz Club @ "The Highwayman" Public House in 1965 this was even a surprise for Michael Garrick the groups pianist who had forgotten the gig had been recorded.
Capturing the group in a very intimate session in front of a small audience, I find the more complex version's of their studio tracks are played at a more relaxed pace, than they were originally recorded. "Blues By Five" starts the evening at a mid tempo pace, with a fluid solo by Tenor player Don Rendell, over a brisk rhythm section.
"Jonah And The Whale" is a relaxed slow tempo groove that finds every member of the band soloing to good effect. "Shades Of Blue" composed by Neil Ardley, is a modal classic, that for me is the highlight of the recording, this performance is something that I dare say even Miles Davis would himself have been proud. Slow, modal, haunting and played with perfect execution, enough said!
"Hot Rod" penned by Ian Carr and Michael Garrick, lets the whole band rip into a highly charged, number, that features a solo from Garrick that starts on a one note flies through, a classical almost Celeste style onto a fast section, and into a very grand mid section the notes flowing from a very creative mind. Michael's style here is unique.
"Garrison 64" finds Don Rendell on soprano deep into another modal piece composed by himself. "Promises" the title tune from one of Garricks own LP's closes the gig with its very British college sound. 76 minutes of music that brings Joy to the ears. "Keep Going Boys, Well Wicked" remarks one member of the audience during this recording I couldn't agree more.

An essential purchase.
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